>Right, but the point is it's easier to roll a 10 on a d8 then it is on a >d10. That's just... wrong. It's a quirk - but since the majority of TN's in HoE are odd, it's not one that comes up a lot. GRW - on the other hand, with it's TNs of 4 and 8, run into this bit a lot. ------------------- Allan Seyberth darious@darious.com Deadlands fan site - http://www.darious.com/ Seeing is only believing.