Re: [HOE] Oh, boy, more Junker problems! [HOPLER]

["Fuzyn9feet" <Fuzyn9feet@email.msn.com>]

I' an avid Junker fan and understand what you are saying. In the description
of Frames it list stuff like rifle and large backpack for one and a heavy
machine-gun and small frigerator. while the rifle and pack are the same
height (pretty much) they are nowhere near the same mass. A heavy
machine-gun and a frig can have the same mass or height but it's not likely
to have both. I think it's mass they where going for. Chamber Members carry
a staff that has 30 slots almost making them a size 3 Frame, my friends and
I figured sense the Camber staff where such hot stuff the pole are normally
one size less making them a Frame 2 with 16 slots. This means that the pole
is about a third the mass of a person according to the Frame Sizes, and I
think that's about right.

Christopher Merrill
A W.H.A.T.T. Member
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Zachariasen <zacharin@pluto.dsu.edu>
To: Deadlands HOE <hoe@gamerz.net>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 12:49 AM
Subject: [HOE] Oh, boy, more Junker problems! [HOPLER]


> One of my players and I are havign a rather heated discussion (read:
> argument) about him building an energy scythe with Shield and Weaponsith.
I
> have no problem with the idea- in fact, I think it would be kinda cool.
> However, what we're disagreeing over is the Frame size.  He says it should
> be Frame 7 because of the blade (which I don't think should factor in on
> energy weapons, since it isn't really there most of the time) and the
> height.  I, however, think the Frame should be smaller due to the fact
that
> it's going to be pretty much a pole that a beam of energy extends from.
My
> logic is that, in the exampe of Framesize 5 (I think it's 5, anyway), it
> gives the examples of a small fridge (I'm guessing a dorm fridge) and a
> battle axe.  Both are listed as Frame 5, yet you're going to be able to
fit
> a lot more onto/into a dorm fridge than you are a battle axe.  The fridge
is
> a box, whereas the axe is essentially a stick with a sharp thing on it.
>
> I mean, you take a Size 6 human and then take a metal handle that's the
same
> height or a little taller.  Now, both would be Frame 6, from my
> understanding, but the human has a Hell of a lot more volume than the
metal
> pole.  To say that you can fit the same number of things into/onto that
> human that you can that pole, to me, is ludicrous.  My interpretation of
> Frame is that it's a measure of volume, which Slots (which are correlated
to
> Frame) seem to be a measure of, and the aforementioned human has much more
> volume than a 6-foot metal pole.  I think he figured that if it was any
> smaller than Frame 6 he wouldn't be able to build it (though this was
before
> I got a chance to see in the AR that an energy weapon uses half the number
> of slots).  Basically, what I'm looking for is some kind of ruling on what
> exactly Frame is supposed to measure- surface area, volume, what?  Also,
> will we ever see some kind of chart detailing roughly how big a Slot is-
say
> maybe a cubic inch or two?  That could help a lot in determining how big
> something needs to be and in saying exactly how large something turns out.
>
> Nick "the player needs a computer" Zachariasen
>
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