In a message dated 11/15/1999 11:21:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, johilles@online.no writes: << Ï have searched the book(s) and i am still wondering. Do templars have to Roll anything for their powers, i see they have to on lay on hands atleast, but on some powers only the effects are listed. >> Nope. Peter Berard The Jolly Gringo Grand Maple Fish of the Surrealist Political Party