RE: Re: [DL] Re: deadlands D20

["Allan 'Deputy' Seyberth" <moderator@darious.com>]

Allright folks -

While the D20 system is nominally on topic, flaming each other is 
not.  Either discuss this and disagree with each other with civility, or 
take it off of this list.

At 02:51 PM 6/13/2001 -0400, you wrote:
 >Thank you for once again convincing me that d20 is a dumb-a$$ system.  I'd
 >forgotten in teh last 24 hours.
 >
 >Original Message:
 >-----------------
 >From: Ronald Conner marshalron@hotmail.com
 >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:05:52 -0700
 >To: deadlands@gamerz.net
 >Subject: Re: [DL] Re: deadlands D20
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> At 11:28 PM 6/12/2001 -0700, you wrote:
 >>  >>My only reason for picking up Deadlands D20 is to convert Weird Wars
 >>to
 >>  >>the Deadlands system.
 >>  >
 >>  >Well yeah, but as a friend pointed out to me, there's a way, at least in
 >>  >HOE, that allows you to get away with running anything you damned well
 >>  >please,making the d20 book very valueble by cutting the down time in
 >rule
 >>  >translations and whatnot....Ever hear of "The Wizards's Tower"? Thanks
 >to
 >>  >the conversion book, I can quickly snag or borrow those really nasty
 >>  >"Quick-better-hand-me-another-character-sheet" Dungeon Crawls, like the
 >Tomb
 >>  >of Horrors and then terrorise my posse with em!
 >>  >
 >>  >Either that or just seeing El Ravager and Knuckles try their darndest to
 >>  >knock off with their crossbows and Hackmaster +12s good ol Stone....now
 >that
 >>  >might be some pretty good amusement.
 >>
 >
 >
 >Just for my own self gratification.  I am currently playing an 11th level
 >gunslinger 4th level ghostwalker in my friend's D&D campaign.
 >
 >For those intrested I use two six-shooters, 1d10 damage X3 crit, 17-20
 >threat range. and one rifle 1d12 damange x3 crit, 15-20 threat range,
 >
 >With my improved crit feat and keen edges cast on my rifle I crit on 3's.
 >Right now i'm working on the death blow feat so I can coup de grace as a
 >standard action.
 >
 >Ron Conner
 >Sadistic marshal.
 >
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