RE: Re: [DL] Re: deadlands D20

["Jimmy Craig" <jimmythebarrel@hotmail.com>]

So you condemn a system because of its players? Tell me of a system that 
does NOT have power gamers playing it? You are using an example of someone 
who crosses over rules sets from another system, making a HUGE imbalance, 
and then say the system is stupid?

Yeah, ok.

You want to condemn the system? Tell me WHY it is a dumb-a** system. Who 
knows, you might convince me it is.

While I do not beleive that the D20 system is terribly innovative, it is not 
the crap that people make it out to be. As far as I am concerned, it is the 
best system that D&D has ever had. And while I do not really like the fact 
that a lot of my favorite games are switching to or adding the D20 ruleset, 
I cannot condemn it if it will help out my favorite game companies survive 
finacially and will let me get D&Ders to try the games I like. And it is a 
easy and fast system that really does not bog down as a lot tend to do.
I do not like the class restictions on skills however. I mean, come on, why 
can a fighter not take a move silent skill without paying double? Or a 
profession? That is the one thing that irks me. Having a disable device be a 
rogue only is fine, but allow me SOME freedom of character creation.

Just my .02 cents.

Jimmy the Barrel



>Thank you for once again convincing me that d20 is a dumb-a$$ system.  I'd 
>forgotten in teh last 24 hours.
>
>Original Message:
>-----------------
>From: Ronald Conner marshalron@hotmail.com
>Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:05:52 -0700
>To: deadlands@gamerz.net
>Subject: Re: [DL] Re: deadlands D20
>
>
>
>
> > At 11:28 PM 6/12/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >  >>My only reason for picking up Deadlands D20 is to convert Weird Wars
> >to
> >  >>the Deadlands system.
> >  >
> >  >Well yeah, but as a friend pointed out to me, there's a way, at least 
>in
> >  >HOE, that allows you to get away with running anything you damned well
> >  >please,making the d20 book very valueble by cutting the down time in
>rule
> >  >translations and whatnot....Ever hear of "The Wizards's Tower"? Thanks
>to
> >  >the conversion book, I can quickly snag or borrow those really nasty
> >  >"Quick-better-hand-me-another-character-sheet" Dungeon Crawls, like 
>the
>Tomb
> >  >of Horrors and then terrorise my posse with em!
> >  >
> >  >Either that or just seeing El Ravager and Knuckles try their darndest 
>to
> >  >knock off with their crossbows and Hackmaster +12s good ol 
>Stone....now
>that
> >  >might be some pretty good amusement.
> >
>
>
>Just for my own self gratification.  I am currently playing an 11th level
>gunslinger 4th level ghostwalker in my friend's D&D campaign.
>
>For those intrested I use two six-shooters, 1d10 damage X3 crit, 17-20
>threat range. and one rifle 1d12 damange x3 crit, 15-20 threat range,
>
>With my improved crit feat and keen edges cast on my rifle I crit on 3's.
>Right now i'm working on the death blow feat so I can coup de grace as a
>standard action.
>
>Ron Conner
>Sadistic marshal.
>
>
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