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I apologize for not deleting the other post. Denise, CH Emmy & Randy From: denisespots@hotmail.com To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org Subject: [pyrnet] health: melanoma vaccine Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:47:01 -0500 Hi All, Anyone have any experience with the melanoma vaccine in Pyrs? Any info appreciated Denise, CH Emmy & Randy > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:29:40 +1100 > From: espinay@bigpond.com > To: staad03@moravian.edu > CC: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org > Subject: Re: [pyrnet] This Pyr almost looks like a red roan? > > <<why do Pyrs seem to be thoroughly pigmented in these areas? Is that > simply due to selectively breeding for fully-pigmented lips and nose? >> > > Yes. Pigment is important and the standard stresses that. Incomplete > pigment can sometimes be a problem particularly on nose and eyerims. > Breeders will try and select for strong pigment (one of the reasons that > breeding all white to all white is not done for multiple generations - > you can risk losing good pigment. ) > > I still don't have a good understanding of roaning, and if that's what's > going on with that dog, why would it pop up so infrequently. > > I will say again - the dog does NOT have roaning. What you are probably > mistaking is a combination of 'dirty' coat (remember most European dogs > are not washed or groomed for a show - they can be pulled straight out > of the yard or paddock) and a 'creamier' tone of coat which some > Pyreneans can have. That combined with the artificial indoor lighting > which is creating more shadows. > > <<I guess it does seem like (and correct me if I'm wrong) that Pyrs here > in the US tend to have less pigment (in terms of coat color) than their > counterparts across the pond, and maybe that's why I haven't seen it? >> > > White or lightly marked has been 'popular' in US all breeds show rings > in past years though there are still a lot of marked dogs out there (for > example, FAME is quite well marked) and there have been some heavy > marked dogs too (some as heavily marked as Admiral Benbow). Europe and > the UK has seen more heavily marked dogs though. Partly a factor of > foundation stock. Less of the heavily marked dogs were imported to the > US in the early years. The darker marked dogs are generally appreciated > by breeders and specialist judges for their good pigment though, even in > the US. > > Tracy Bassett > Espinay Pyrenean Mountain Dogs > "Putting te Breed before breeding" > Gunning NSW Australia > mobile: 0412167278 > email: info@espinay.com > web: www.espinay.com > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16850) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > > > To unsubscribe, send a message to esquire@pyrnet.org with > unsubscribe pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org > as the BODY of the message. The SUBJECT is ignored. > |