In this case perhaps, the owner of the goats is her partner. After all, he/she (the owner) did dispatch the predator. But I think it a bit ridiculous to ask a pup to be put in new territory, with a new herd, and do the job of a fully mature LGD. JMO. Barb Bowes Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs) & Flopsy (Pyrenean Shepherd) "The more people I meet, the more I like my dog!" bamb@monmouth.com