Not sure in HOE, but I think in DL, you get +\-3 on the first one, +\- 2 second one & +\- 1 on the third. jeff S -----Original Message----- From: Jeff P. Wheeler <jpwheeler@eternityedge.com> To: hoe@gamerz.net <hoe@gamerz.net> Date: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: [HOE] Gun Question If I shoot a 3 round burst from a SMG and get 3 raises, do I still get the +/-3 on the hit location roll?