Re: [HOE]FETTERS(NO GMS NAMED DEDALANDER)

[Bryce Perry <sandchigger@yahoo.com>]

--- Sean Michael Whipkey <highway@cstone.net> wrote:
> Bryce Perry wrote:
> > 
> > --- Dan Sulin <grandmasternilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Okay,  I'd would have made the call that you died.  Why?
> > >
> > > Here is my reasoning.  When a Manitou picks a body to turn
> harrowed,
> > > he does
> > > it on his terms.  Sure he has to deal with the persistant soul
> and
> > > fight for
> > > control.  But for the most part he deals with it and gets to have
> fun
> > > with
> > > the body once and a while.
> > >
> > > But then you fetter it.  Now you have essential enslaved the
> Manitou.
> > >  He is
> > > stuck feeding your clunky Cyborg Body and powers and he gets
> nothing
> > > in
> > > return.  This pissed him off to no end.
> > >
> > > One day hes stuck in your head, running all your powers and some
> nice
> > > guys
> > > on the outside hits you with an EMP.  Well looky here, hes free
> > > again.  Now
> > > he has some options
> > >
> > > 1) He can try and retake dominion and use you as a tool, but he
> tried
> > > that
> > > once and you and you friends locked him in a little box and
> forced
> > > him into
> > > slavery.
> > >
> > > 2) Screw trying to take you over.  Take the oppurtunity and get
> his
> > > ass out
> > > of you head and laugh happily as he watched you die.  Serves you
> > > right for
> > > enslaving a demon.
> > >
> > > It makes sense.  The Manitou sees an out and he takes it.  Maybe
> > > another
> > > G.M. would rule differently but if it were me. You would be dead.
> > 
> > Now wait a minute.  As the rules stand this only partially makes
> sense.
> >  I thought that when a manitou created a harrowed, it bound itself
> to
> > the deader so tightly that it can't get out without just plain
> DYING.
> 
> Right...at least in everything I've read, a manitou can NOT leave a
> Harrowed willingly.  Killing a Harrowed is one of the only ways to
> kill
> a manitou.  I don't think that'll be any different for a Cyborg.
> 
> I'd see the manitou attempting to regain dominion, because think of
> the
> "fun" he could have with a cyborg body...

Then maybe I don't understand the whole debate taking place above.  As
I recall - and it's been A WHILE since I read the Cyborg book, so I may
be WAAAAY off - the unfettered merit just lets the Manitou give the
borg "normal" harrowed powers like Ghost, or Unholy Reflexes, or what
have you and try for dominion again.  It doesn't give the little guy an
out.

-Bryce

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