RE: [HOE] Idea I had. want your opinion on it.

["McKay, Ashley" <Ashley.McKay@dva.gov.au>]

I had a similar idea to this.

My take on it was that demons, devils, angels, gods, whatever are all
essentially the same (it's just that the 'good' ones had a better
publicist... :-)

Anyway, these beings, because they have been created from 'whole cloth' (ie
created by mankind's belief and imagination) they are lacking something (ie
a soul) and while they are aware they lack something, they don't actually
know what it is.   Of course, lacking a soul, these beings are somewhat
limited in creativity and imagination, but being created from 'whole cloth'
they often possess unimaginable powers and abilities (because that's what
mankind believes they can do...)

This state of affairs persists until one day, one of these beings stumbles
across a human soul that has just been released (ie the guy is dead) and
driven by their own innate lack of a soul, they consume it.   The act of
consuming a soul provides this being with greater imagination, creativity
and raw power, so you can see where this is going...

Anyway, once this becomes common knowledge in the 'spirit realm' these
beings being to interfere with mortal affairs because if they know when and
where a battle it to be fought, then they can consume more and more souls...

To this end, they created the 'office' of the Avatar, one of their number
sent to earth for a full solar year to reap as many souls as possible.   If
they are particularly successful, they can stay longer.   The Avatar has
assumed a number of different forms, primarily human, but also as the Black
Plague, AIDS, and smallpox.   Hitler was an Avatar, as were the leaders of
the North Vietnamese Army and numerous cult leaders.   Oppenheimer (sp?) was
an Avatar, and the commanders of the Japanese POW camps were (at the very
least) Avatar-influenced.

If anyone is interested, I can send them the full document.   If so, please
contact me off list.

Ashley.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Theo McGuckin [SMTP:tsm@jlab.org]
> Sent:	Sunday, February 25, 2001 1:45 PM
> To:	hoe@gamerz.net
> Subject:	Re: [HOE] Idea i had. want your opinion on it.
> 
> 
> Another possibility would be to treat the angels and devils like waring
> factions in a cosmic battle. This idea was used in Brave New World's
> Covenant book. 
> 
> Basically there are powerful creatures that live on other planes that are
> fighting a war. But they can't get to each other's plane, they are stuck
> on their own (the Hunting Grounds, and "Heaven" if you will). The only way
> for them to interact is through our plane. 
> 
> They both have different methods, but the same goals, to re-shape our
> world into there's so they can come fully to our plane. One does this
> through chaos (the Reckoners) the other through order (the "Angels" or
> whatever). Neither is really good or evil, per se, the angels would just
> as quickly kill everyone, but they think that by working with the humans
> they can take over easier. 
> 
> So in the end the humans are just chess pieces for which ever side and
> have to eventually find their own path and defeat, or break away from both
> powers. This could however put a much darker bent on the Templar's martyrs
> and saints though...
> 
> Another analogy would be the Shadows and Vorlons from Bablyon 5 if you
> like.
> 
> Theo McGuckin - SysAdmin, JLab
> 
> 
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