Re: [HOE] Idea i had. want your opinion on it.

[Theo McGuckin <tsm@jlab.org>]

> >So in the end the humans are just chess pieces for which ever side and
> >have to eventually find their own path and defeat, or break away from both
> >powers. This could however put a much darker bent on the Templar's martyrs
> >and saints though...
> 
> That's definately not the tone I'd want for HOE. Totally wrong metaplot. My
> feel on how things in HOE are going to "end" put humans in a much more
> active role. If humans are just pawns and the powers that be just hand
> salvation to them then it's meaningless. This I see as one of the bigger
> problems for PEG as they advance the HOE storyline. How do they do that
> without letting the Big NPCs do all the big stuff? The heroes should be the
> PCs.

That's the thing. The angels may say they are handing the PCs salvation,
but there's is just another form of control. Whether the control is
through straight fear (like the reckoners) or rigid rules (like the
angels) it still boils down to PCs being subjects to someone else. They're
only hope for true freedom is break from both groups and find their own
path.

> >Another analogy would be the Shadows and Vorlons from Bablyon 5 if you
> >like.
> 
> Well, in Bab 5 the Vorlon's don't really do much of anything, their purpose
> is to "help those who help themselves" I think. Lend a gentle hand or a
> reminder here or there, but only if the party they are helping is willing
> to do it themselves in the first place, with or without the Vorlon's help.
> The purpose of a guide is to show you the way, not carry you piggyback.

That's not totally accurate. The Vorlons believed in strength through
order and cooperation, the Shadows believed in "culling the weak" to make
the strong stronger, survival of the fitest and all that. Basically they
both had their views of how the universe should be (order or chaos) and
were trying to impose them on the "lesser races". That's why in the end
the lesser races wound fighting against both sides.

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