In a message dated 12/4/2000 3:21:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, robert@macauley.com writes: << What's the correct modifier for off-roadin' without the proper suspension? Page 39 says it's +2, page 64 says it's +1. I'm guessing +2 is right, since modifiers are almost always multiples of 2. Base TN 11 for street cars off-road...ouch. >> The correct modifier is +2. John Hopler Pinnacle