> Works for me, even with javascript off. (I'm a fanatic about that, > for professional reasons.) Maybe you're using a frames-resistant > browser? I wouldn't have thought there were any such in use at this > late date, but it used to be a common snag. using ie5 but still no /hoe.html the link to /main.html works fine however havent had any problems with frames to date BTW nice backround story