Re: [HOE] Urban Renewal cover [Shane, Hopler, et al]

["B.D. Flory" <bflory@frontiernet.net>]

| WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!  I was about to complain about
the
| LACK of hot, scantily-clad girls in Deadlands books.  All throughout
| adventure games, going WAY back to D & D, and even the old Warhammer
series
| from Games Workshop, scantily clad hot females, whether they were
powerful
| Sorceresses or damsels in distress, have been a STAPLE of fantasy
role-play,
| and fantasy in general.  

You know, up to here, I was really hoping you were being sarcastic.

| (Just pick up a copy of X-Men, hello?)  

I'm sorry, but "they did it in X-Men, so it must be OK!" just doesn't cut
it.
 
| Any girl
| that I know cool and laid back enough to play Deadlands with a bunch of
guys
| (and we have a few in our posse) wouldn't mind this cover, because it
| enhances the fantasy of the role you're playing.  

Y'know, we've got a couple in one of my groups as well, and I can say with
some degree of certainty that they probably wouldn't "mind" this cover
either.  But I guarantee the cover wouldn't be a draw for them.

| And yes, it's just as much
| fun for female role-players to say, "Yeah, I'm the hot female Templar" as
it
| is for guys to say, "I'm the handsome, stud Templar with all the chicks."

Perhaps this is so.  But y'know something? That ain't got nothing to do
with the cover to Urban Renewal.  Look at it, and you'll see what I mean. 
Besides, we most of us don't need visual aids.

| If you can't take the heat, stay the Hell out of the kitchen.

Whether I can take the heat or not isn't really the issue.  Quite frankly,
my opinion has been that PEG has always put a fair amount of class into
their products, and that seems to be slipping lately (in this regard, at
least).  I don't see any reason that it should slip; there is no compelling
reason to put naked women on the covers of game books.  Period.

|As far as I'm
| concerned, if I'm going to pay like $25 for an adventure, whatever
| reasonably tasteful scantily-clad females are in there is just gravy.  

This is rather my point.  It is not at *all* tasteful.

| You
| can call me a chauvanist, but I think most of the guys who roleplay are
all
| thinking the same thing here.

Quite possibly.  And you know something? Thanks to that, it's going to
remain mostly guys that role-play.

That's all,

B. D. Flory

"There are four types of homicide: felonious, culpable, justifiable, and
praiseworthy."
                                                   -Oscar Wilde