Re: [HoE] Blessed in Hell on Earth --it begins (LONG!)

[Matthew Steflik <grifflik@stny.rr.com>]

Whee! I really started something, didn't I?  One of the unfortunate side
effects of getting this list digest version is I end up playing a bit of
catch up with you guys...here we go again...:)

Christopher Merrill wrote:

> I don't see it as God (et al) has turned his back, been cut off or is
> dead.
> Most beliefs on God focus (or rationalize) his it stand offish with
> "Free
> Will." I've thrown several (assuming 4 is several) priests and
> ex-priest in
> many guises at my posse. Each kept or lose their faith not because
> their God
> turned it's back or stopped supplying them with power but because they
> saw
> what they saw and could or couldn't understand why it stayed out of
> the
> fight. Again it came down to "Free Will."

This was part of the reason I brought up the topic in the first place; I
wanted to introduce a new "archetype" blessed to the posse as an NPC
with the idea that I would eventually allow them to be played (but more
on that as things develop).  Yes, the concept of "free will" and "do as
thou wilt", etc. is a valid point but does not answer why organized
religion (as we know it) seems to have vanished in the HoE environment.


> I agree to a point. Like you pointed out with the Doomsayers faith is
> a
> tricky thing. Have something really bad happen, like the Black Plague
> and
> people's faith start to waver or crumble. Then that same period
> produced
> extreme faith in the form of the Inquisition. And it spawned
> independent
> thinking as well. People grab on to the damnist things in times of
> great
> pearl.
> On a close tangent Hostages relate to their Kidnappers because people
> need
> to grab on to something in trying times.

Yes, I agree - which explains the rise of the Cult o' Doom and the
Templars.  For all you ex-Gamma Worlders (or perhaps you still play from
time to time...) out there, remember all of the "Cryptic Alliances"
(Archivists, Knights of Genetic Purity, Followers of the Voice,
Radioactivists, etc.).  Same type of thing.  Speaking of, has anyone
else thought of using anything similar to these in HoE?

O.W. Jones wrote (regarding Divine Intervention):

>  As for DI I think you would need a Legend Chip,  also DI still
> exists; see
> Lost Angels when Pestilance's Horse got wacked.

Good eyes there, Mr. Jones - forgot about that. :)

Gus_Bus wrote:

> - I also have to agree with you.  People have to have something to
> believe
> in.  It's just human nature.  I personal like to leave the blessed
> just the
> way they are.  They got enough stacked against them as is.

Hey - welcome aboard.  How's Korea treating you?

> So in my version of HOE, you can play a Pair
> of Missionaries (we ALWAYS work in twos,) wandering the wastes looking
> for
> other Mormons and helping them get back to Zion (Canada.)  Obviously,
> helpin' those in need and other acts of 'service,' just kinda goes
> with the
> job.  However, their primary mission is to find other Mormons.
>   If anyone's interested, I have a few architypes and other
> information in
> my personal files for these Post-Apocalyptic Blessed and their
> organization.

Hmmm.  Sounds interesting - I'll send off  a personal request to you in
a few (when I get done with this).  As I said earlier, I'm working on a
new archetype myself.  Anyone else out there have new blesseds for HoE
they'd like to share?

Bobby wrote:

> In my HOE game, Blessed are rare. Very Rare. There is an occasional
> rumor of
> someone proclaiming God's name and performing miracles and some such.
> But most
> people have turned against God and have no reason to believe in these
> Wasted
> Legends.

I agree with very rare - but I don't agree with this much of mankind
turning against their beliefs.  I'd be much more inclined to say that
there are just fewer individuals now have enough faith to call their
deity up on the celestial hotline to get their miracle mojo working.

> Hope I haven't rubbed anyone the wrong way by bring Biblical settings
> into an RPG,
> but hey, Pinnacle started it. :-)

Nah.  Don't bother me none.  I enjoy open, intelligent discourse on just
about anything.  Bang away.

Almighty th...er...alrighty then.  That should bring me back up to speed
(at least until around 11:50 tonight).
(*Phew again!*).

Matt "blowhard" Steflik
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