In Wasted West, the M-200 MSPW does 4d12 on impact and 3d8 in BR 3. In Cyborgs, the M-200 MSPWC does 5d10 straight up. I can't help but wonder if it's supposed to the same (or even similar) damage. _____________________________________________________________________________ Jay E. Treat III jayson@ccat.sas.upenn.edu