RE: [HoE] Templar Observation

["Steve Crow" <crow_steve@hotmail.com>]

>Some spoiler space....
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>Well, he was in the group.  And he was even drawing some fire.  But...and I
>guess I'll have to explain a bit further...
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>Essentially, the Servitor's lifeforce was tied to a girl's nightmares.
>There were two options:  kill the girl, or "psych" her out of it.  A couple
>of members of the group were already halfway to psyching her out.   They
>weren't letting the Templar kill the girl (although it wasted some of their
>time having to keep her alive when he was trying to kill her until they ran
>far enough away), and the Servitor having that Immunity/All kind of thing
>that Servitors typically have, the Temp couldn't do anything to it.  Rather
>than wait another round or chip in to help himself or draw a bit more fire,
>his plan was to step aside and invite it to go off after his comrades.
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>Herein lies your problem -- you have just stated that killing the girl was
>an option.  It may not sound pretty or nice, but if he is as stern as you
>say, one death can save hundreds. Also, if the child is essentially feeding
>the Servitor, it is an accomplice (albeit an unwilling one) to all of its
>actions.  It isn't unreasonable to come to the conclusion here that the
>child is not innocent.
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That essentially was the conclusion he came to, yes.

>As for the party protecting the power source of a servitor -- sounds like 
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>unworthy bunch to me.  The Templar code specifically states NOT to throw
>your life away in such cases.
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But their assumption of the girl's innocence, and their protection, did 
eventually result in the Servitor's defeat _and_ keeping the girl alive.

I'm not sure if that makes them "unworthy".  But the group seems to be happy 
to stay with the Templar, and vice versa.

>Don't get me wrong -- I'd go for trying to save the kid.  As a Marshal,
>that's what I'd want the posse to do as well.  My desires as Marshal,
>however, have little to do with whether or not the Templar acted properly 
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>role played the situation well.  Given that you asked for my opinion on the
>matter, I would argue that it would be unfair of you to not give him the
>Power.  He played well and within the rules of the Order.  If you disagree
>with me, I would suggest that you take the player aside and explain exactly
>what is what and why, in your campaign world, things work that way.  After
>all, if he expects your world to work one way, based on your prior actions
>and statements in the books, and find out is works another, you are being
>arbitrary -- a big no-no for the Marshal.
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I don't disagree with you.  But...like I noted, ultimately his efforts prove 
counter-productive (albeit for justifiable Templar-based reasons).  The 
group spent as much time fighting him as the Servitor, and they may have 
even defeated the Servitor quicker if he hadn't been trying to kill the 
girl.

As such, the Templar didn't really contribute much to the "Legend" that 
resulted.  Particularly since *heh* the individual who is doing the 
storytelling to earn the Legend Chip was one of the ones protecting the 
girl.

If he didn't really contribute to the Legend, should he benefit from the 
Greater Reward that would normally result?  I don't think this is something 
you can really "spell out" for a player (nor does the Templar SB do so).

>Now that doesn't mean that another of the Saints might not take umbrage at
>his actions and require him to make ammends.  Again, discuss it with him 
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>involve the players he abandoned.  Send him on a visionquest.  Make him
>adopt the girl or go get something she needs to heal from the trauma.  
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>are ways to work through this rather than act as a wrathful saint.
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While I'm sure there are Saints the guy doesn't have as patrons that 
disgaree with his actions...if they're not giving him benefits now, why 
would he care if they take umbrage at his actions (or his unwillingness to 
make amends for such actions), and not give him their powers?  As you may 
have gathered, there are some Saints this guy is not going to gain the 
benefits of, no matter what.  :)

Unless you're talking about "the Saints" in general.  In which case your 
idea actually sounds a bit like mine.  The only thing they can deprive him 
of is the Greater Reward.

>Just my $.02
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Much appreciated.  I didn't want to spend pages (well, more pages :) ) 
spelling out every bit of the situation that has led to what seems to be a 
justified call on his part as to what his character would do.  But you've 
grasped the essentials, yep.

>Matt


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Steve Crow

"Worm Can Opener Extraordinare"

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