Re: [HoE] Junker/Cyborg stuff

["Steve Crow" <crow_steve@hotmail.com>]

><<Wouldn't the size of a cyber-arm directly impact its Strength? It's hard 
>to
>   imagine a skinny little Frame-2 wire-thin arm doing STR 4d12+4... :)>>
>That's what Super Strength is for.  Basically, every device has a Strength 
>that
>is relative to it's Frame.  Frame 2 is something like 3d4.  But SS allows 
>the
>device to get a boost in Strength, so the arm could stand up to the 
>necessary
>punishment.
>

*nods* yep.  But I'm still not totally sure how it relates to size and the 
miniaturization issue  In this case it almost seems like the smaller the 
frame, the _harder_ it would be to boost its strength.  I'll take a look at 
the stuff again...

><<That would be my approach as well, although the Junker SB words it more 
>as
>   an absolute ban (i.e., you can't miniaturize a car at all) rather than
>   simply preventing you from miniaturizing the non-passenger/control 
>aspects
>   of a car.>>
>I'm definitely with ya here; I'll take slightly more complicated over 
>strict &
>simple.  But adding something like that to the book would have required 
>more
>space in a book that was already bursting at the seams, and another level 
>of
>complication to scare away people who think fractions are gonna come and 
>eat
>them in their sleep...
>

Well, I've got a review of Junkers Sourcebook coming out over at 
www.azraelonline.com, and I pretty much dismissed the concerns that the 
calculations were too complicated.  I saved that for the Cyborg Sourcebook 
review.  :)

><<Again, this might seem like "common sense" or "use your imagination" but 
>I
>   often find that when a sourcebook's or rulebook's statements contradict
>   "common sense," there's usually a reason the authors intended. In this
>   case, the author's reasoning escapes me in certain cases...>>
>Knowing the Hell that JH went through trying to put the book together, 
>balance
>the numbers, and then chop the book down the the requisite number of pages, 
>this
>was most likely a very minor point in the big mess, so it was easier to 
>say,
>"Ban It!" than to try and write a good explanation in the hopes that it 
>wouldn't
>be another thing that the HoE Listserv will trash him for as soon as the 
>book
>comes out.
>(yup, still a little bitter)
>--

Well, I've worked on my share of sourcebooks, so I wasn't trying to dismiss 
John's efforts.  But it did strike me (as it has since struck my players 
drooling over the chance to create Junkers : ) ) that Miniaturize is 
potentially one _very_ useful and oft-chosen Trick.  It's not really subject 
to abuse per se that I've noticed so far (unless you get some really absurd 
roll - unfortunately my players occasionally do), but it does strike me that 
it might have got a little more explanation/scrutiny, and a little less 
space devoted to some of the other Tricks.

Don't know about the Listserv issues, as I try to stay clear of that kind of 
thing.  Anything off-line you'd care to tell me, I'd be interested in 
hearing.

From Whom It May Concern,
>Richard Ranallo, The Man They Couldn't Hang
>


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Steve Crow

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