Not to rain on your cheesecake or anything, but Tempests can't become Hucksters, and Tempest itself is a Knack, so you can be a Huckster with a Knack, but not a Tempest-huckster or Tempest-Knack. AB: Huckster (3) <SNIP> Tempest (5) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1