RE: [DL] Thoughts on Old Pete {Spoilers}

[Frank <frank.wisnes@student.uib.no>]

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>Problem 1 Ghost only protects against non magical weapons. (+1) weapons have
>full effect. They were using  (+3) magic weapons. (Trust me, the party
>earned them)
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>Problem 2 Breath of Fire was not translated into D20 for some odd reason,
>unless its published elsewhere that I am unaware of.
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>Problem 3 Stone loses a whole combat round while ridiculing
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>Problem 4 High vamoosin rolls are treated as being given the dodge feet (wow
>+1 to AC. I had already given stone a natural AC of 15 and with his dex
>bonus it was brought to 21)



And people wonder why I despise the D20 version of Deadlands...
When you stat *everything* it kinda takes the fun away from the game now 
doesn't it.



>Okay, this is in response to someone saying Stone in D20 is weaker than
>Stone in Classic and some such deal with having a bunch of 16th level
>characters putting a bunch of lead in said Stone, yada, yada, yada....
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>How would Stone deal with all this damage?  Easy, assuming this is in D20,
>Stone simply makes a Vamoosin' roll (how's he gonna miss that), Ghost his
>entire body to let the bullets go through with NO effect, then do a Ridicule
>roll against all the players to make them take massive amounts of penalties,
>breathe fire onto the whole group, and oh, then maybe think about shooting
>the survivors.  Stone's harrowed abilities are a major thorn in the posse's
>side.  Stone being able to do just about everything exceedingly well, is
>another thorn.  As stated, his only weakness is his overconfidence.



As others have pointed out, he isn't gone for good. There's no reason for 
Death to just send him back, or just saying that he can only be killed by a 
certain weapon and bring him back. I've been skimming though Ghost Dancers 
lately and it even mentiones how a shaman can enter the hunting grounds and 
bring back the soul of a dead friend. So if a mere shaman can do it, then 
so can Death. You could even say that Raven brought him back as repayment 
for an old favor (or maybe Old Pete made him do it), or simply that one of 
the Last Sons, who have been following the posse around using various 
animal forms and thus know what they're up to, retrives him.

But killing off Stone... *mumbles*
And I thought I disliked the D20 version before this thread....


- Frank -