Re: [DL] Newcomer - d20 Question

[Paul-André Beaulieu <beaulieu@pipcom.com>]

Thanks for the prompt reply!

 

The only restrictions on Marksman of which I am aware are:

 

1- Target must not be running or making a double move.

2- Shooter must not be disturbed (make Concentration checks as appropriate).

 

Unaware targets are actually covered in the 'Getting the drop' (or a similar name; I don't have the book handy) section. If I remember properly, getting the drop on someone always allows you to make a coup de grace shot / melee attack regardless of the feats or skills you possess.

 

-P-A

 

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Subject: Re: [DL] Newcomer - d20 Question

In a message dated 12/7/02 6:48:38 PM Central Standard Time, beaulieu@pipcom.com writes:

The Rifleman prestige class (from Way of the Gun) gets the Marksman feat at 1st level. They also get a 'coup de grace' (I believe that's the name) ability (at 5th level, I believe) that lets them inflict a coup de grace (killing shot) using their rifle after aiming for two full rounds. I'm sorry if I got this wrong, but doesn't the Marksman feat allow you to do just that after aiming for a single full round? I just can't see the advantage of the 'coup de grace' rilfeman ability when compared to the Marksman feat.

I believe the Marksman feat requires that the target be unaware of your presence/flat-footed? Thus, the ability to coup-de-grace _anybody_, even if they know you're there is a big improvement.  See _Quigley Dow Under_, for example.

Phil