Re: [DL] Freeing the Slaves

[David R Goecke <mightygecko@juno.com>]

I came late to this thread, but i'm understanding right, you are
objecting to the Deadlands history of the confederacy freeing the slaves?
I'm a civil war buff, and a confederate (civilian) reenactor. I've done
my research.

In real history, the Confederacy was courting the British for
possibilities of an alliance. At this point the reason for the war was
primarily stae rights as opposed to federal rights. Britain was willing
to support a war for that cause. Then Lincoln passed the Emancipation
Proclaimation. Britain then dropped the confederacy like a bad habit. I
thnik a lot of people out there think that Lincoln passed the
Emancipation Proclaimation, and then the civil war started. But Lincoln
eliminated slavery as a tactical move, not a humanitarian move. The
Confederacy was gonig to end slavery once the war was over, and once
Lincoln passed the EP, they couldn't to the same or they would lose face
with the world. Declaim cecesion and then obey the laws of the country
you're fighting? No way.

So in the deadlands world, where the Confederacy has a strong hold, they
would be more than comfortable to free the slaves. And since the slaves
were freed by their own government, and not what they viewed as a foreign
power, the hatred and racism would not be so strong.

Plus another peg on my soap box, there were two anti-slavery movements in
that time. Abolition and Emancipation. Abolitionists wanted the slaves
freed and given equal rights. Emancipationists wanted the slaves freed
and all sent back to Africa. Lincoln didn't pass the Abolition
Proclamation....

Take this witha grain of salt though. it comes from a young man in the
north whose slutty southern grandma said  grandpa was "colored". General
Lee was also my Great Great Uncle. No joke. But please note I said
General Lee. Not Robert E. Lee. My Great Great Unlces first name was
General and last name was Lee... God my family is full of
hillbillies..........

Dave


On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:34:12 +1200 "Mark Chiddicks"
<Mark.Chiddicks@descisys.com> writes:
> Absolutely - I have no problem with suspension of disbelief when the 
> laws of physics or biology are messed with, but I expect human 
> psychology to follow certain rules!
> 
> i.e. I expect the Southern politicians to continue to behave like 
> Southern politicians. If I wrote an adventure which depicted Bill 
> Hickock leading a flower arranging class, people would laugh - if I 
> depicted him as a werewolf, people would approve - there's some 
> stuff you can do in fantasy that works and some stuff you can't.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Markus Finster [mailto:markus.finster@chello.at]
> Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2002 10:23 a.m.
> To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> Subject: RE: [DL] Freeing the Slaves [Chris](was: Wolverine (not 
> OT))
> 
> 
> At 23:47 31.07.2002, Mark Chiddicks wrote:
>  >I must say the least convincing element of the Deadlands World is 
> the
>  >Confederate Manumission Law.
> 
> Let me get this straight - you have absolutely no problem with the 
> dead 
> getting up again and try to eat your brain, but a small piece of 
> paper with 
> the state seal on it sounds unbelievable?
> 
> Nice perspective ;-)
> 
> But seriously, I added a remark for Chris in the subject, since he 
> will 
> surely give you a much better answer on this than I ever could.
> 
> Markus
> 
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