Re: [DL] water and ammunition

["Daniel Gwyn" <dgwyn@colba.net>]

Shotgun cartridge casings were also made out of metals other than brass.  I
"inherited" a spent 12 gauge cartridge from my grandfather made out of some
silvery and quite durable metal, clearly not brass.  Admittedly, the casing
was made by Holland & Holland so it was obviously British "luxury"
ammunition mostly likely produced within the last 40-odd years.
    The other factor to remember with regards to Old West metallic
cartridges, is that some were designed to be re-used after being fired.
This obviously is a possibility for sadistic Marshals to inflict all kinds
of misery on would-be penny pinchers.  ;-)
          Daniel Gwyn

"Y si yo vuelvo a nacer, yo los vuelvo a matar.
Padre no arrepiento, ni me da miedo la eternidad,
Yo sé que allà en el cielo el ser supremo nos juuzgarà
Voy a seguir sus pasos, voy a buscarlos al mas allà."

From "El Preso Numero Nueve (The Ninth Prisoner)" author unknown


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Frempath2@netscape.net <Frempath2@netscape.net>
À : deadlands@gamerz.net <deadlands@gamerz.net>
Date : April 30, 2001 10:34 AM
Objet : Re: [DL] water and ammunition


>Now I misunderstood the initial posting.  I thought you were talking about
loose powder and shot in a paper cartridge for a muzzle loading shotgun.
The first shotgun cartridges were all brass.  This type of cartridge is very
expensive though, and was the driving force behind the mostly paper or
plastic cartridges we are familiar with.
>
>As a side note the U.S. Military used the all brass cartridges through the
1960's.  In WW2 they found the paper cartridges would swell in humid
conditions and not fit in the shotgun.  In Vietnam they found that plastic
would melt under combat conditions and muck up the action and barrel.  The
all brass cartridges did not have these problems.
>
>g'day
>frempath
>
>
>deadlands@gamerz.net wrote:
>>
>> Thats true hadnt thought of that, most shotgun shells were paper, at some
>> point they went to metal as well before todays current plastic style but
i
>> dont know what years that happened.
>>
>> Andrew
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fantaphage" <zom-b@chipsnet.com>
>> To: <deadlands@gamerz.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 4:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DL] water and ammunition
>>
>>
>> > What about shotgun ammo? I think back in 1877 shell casings were made
of
>> > paper weren't they? If so, don't go wading past your bandolier's.
>> >
>> > Fantaphage
>> >
>> > "To hell with them fellas--buzzards gotta eat, same as worms." - The
>> Outlaw
>> > Josey Wales
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Andrew Greeson <tattoos@triad.rr.com>
>> > To: <deadlands@gamerz.net>
>> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 7:11 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [DL] water and ammunition
>> >
>> >
>> > > Depends really, most standard amo in this time is not sealed, and wet
>> > powder
>> > > will not fire. a quick immersion would probably give a percentage
>> chance
>> > > for misfires, while a more prolonged stay under water would ruin the
>> > rounds.
>> > > If your posse is smart enough they can be sealed with something like
a
>> > thin
>> > > coat of wax. My group went on a underwater cave system type adventure
>> and
>> > > did just that.
>> > >
>> > > Specialty rounds from S and R could be considered different tho. More
>> > like
>> > > modern ammo which can stand a simple soaking.
>> > >
>> > > Andrew
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Alexander Mosena" <marshal-grim@firemail.de>
>> > > To: <deadlands@gamerz.net>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 8:06 PM
>> > > Subject: [DL] water and ammunition
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > greetings from germany, guys and gals!
>> > > > a simple question:
>> > > > what happens if a bullet gets wet; or let's say, the character
falls
>> > into
>> > > a lake with his guns in his hands. how do his guns work when he comes
>> back
>> > > out of the water?
>> > > >
>> > > > i must admit i don't know much about guns, so please be patient if
>> this
>> > > question sounds stupid.
>> > > >
>> > > > thank you all, alexander mosena
>> > > > (feel freeto add me to your contact list: 58092920)
>> > > > ______________________________________________________
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>> > > > Einfach, schnell, sicher.
>> > > >
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