Re: [DL] Harrowed - Spoilers

["Nick Zachariasen" <zacharin@pluto.dsu.edu>]

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> So it seems the Munchkins (no relation) are rearing
> their ugly little heads on a few of the bullitin
> boards lately.  Their favorite character type to abuse
> ... Harroweds.  Personally I don't understand it, just
> toss down a few chips and even the 5d12+4 spirit types
> should realize the errors of their ways.  They don't
> though, so here are some ideas for Harrowed I wanted
> to dicuss with the list.
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> A) Supernatural Trait:  Either it should be changed so
> Spirit is the only trait that it cannot affect, or
> that whenever it is pumped up, the manitous spirit
> also gets pumped.  After all, why would the manitou
> grant a power that harms itself?

That's the way I interpret it.  The Manitou can use any power that the
Harowed character has learned, so why not Supernatural Spirit in a Dominion
check?

> B) The road to abominations.  It has been suggested
> that Harrowed slowly become abominations (although
> this is spliting hairs, not unlike what is clasified
> as a fearmonger), and there is even an adventure on
> PEGs site with a Harrowed who has upgraded to
> abomination status.  He even gets some nifty
> non-harrowed type powers.  Well at what point does
> become an abomination?  When he loses all his dominion
> points?  Or does it happen before then?  The suggested
> method is the former, but here's a little something to
> help keep those munchkin players in check:
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> When the manitou's dominion plus the sum of the
> Harrowed power levels plus the number of coup counted
> is equal to the character's spirit die type he becomes
> a sub-abomination.  At this point the character gains

<SNIP> the rest

Uh, no.  Take a character created Harrowed, rather than one who just became
that way.  That character having 5 levels in powers plus a Manitou with half
Dominion (if it worked out that way) would just need to either develop one
more level in a power, have the Manitou gain one more point, or count Coup
once.  That's a little merciless.  When I've run people through their
nightmares, they tend to be either right on the money or really close to the
Manitou having half Dominion.  That'd be a little soon to have a character
become a semi-abomination.  I could see maybe if the powers were taken out
of the equation and just coup and Manitou Dominion were figured in (probably
take step 2 and make it step 1, and make step 3 step 2, except shift the
numerical requirements)

Nick Zachariasen