Re: [BNW] Bargainer/Goliath

["Steve Crow" <crow_steve@hotmail.com>]

>Steve Crow wrote:
>
> > >Has anyone else ever thought about how powerful a Bargainer with the 
>Delta
> > >Totem [Goliath] would be?
> > >Think about it, he's have all the powers of a goliath available, but 
>could
> > >turn them off any time that being big,ugly and obvious wasn't convient.
> > >Sure there are some problems (a bargainer probably wouldn't have the 
>5d6
> > >str, needing more spirit). But you could still make a good character.
> > >
> >
> > The main problem seems to be is that if the enlarged Bargainer takes any
> > wounds as a Goliath, he's pretty much "stuck" in that form.  Since the
> > wounds theoretically become much more dangerous if he reverts back to 
>his
> > normal Size 5.
> >
> > I tried to address that issue with the "Giant" power at my web site.
> > Unfortunately, it requires a bit more paperwork.  Although the simplest 
>way,
> > rather than to track the original damage, is simply to reconvert it.  So 
>if
> > they have 3 Wounds on their torso as a Size 7 Goliath, and then revert 
>to
> > Size 5, they gain an additional wound (3 * 7 = 21 points of damage.  
>Divide
> > by the new Size of 5 to find new Wounds).
> >
>
>not, really, because the damage has already been taken.... the wounds would 
>stay
>proportional to the Barginer's body.... Like a Shrinker
>

My citing of such a rule was based on the use of a similar "growth" ability 
(and the shifting of wounds accordingly) for the Covenant ability 
(specifically pages 121-122).  I think Theo noted this.

Theo also noted that a Bargainer not gaining more wounds might be based on 
physics rather than "magic."  That doesn't make sense for two reasons:  A) A 
Bargainer imitating growth _is_ "magic," and B) Magic would be _less_ likely 
to obey the laws of physics (which seems to be the argument for why 
Bargainers don't gain more wounds when their Size readjusts to their smaller 
norm).

Granted, there is nothing officially stated for either a Bargainer/Goliath, 
or for a Shrinker (as Theo also noted).  However, based on rules precedent 
to date, I would say that the rules argue for such an interpretation as I 
originally cited.  Guides, of course, can do whatever they want regardless 
of what the rules, Matt Forbeck, or anyone on here might say.  But we were 
discussing the rules, right?


>Nick



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