RE: [BNW] Leaping, etc.

["Steve Crow" <crow_steve@hotmail.com>]

> >Just as a note, whatever its faults, we find combat in BNW _much_ faster
> >than in Deadlands/Hell on Earth.  Boy, do we hate drawing those cards for
> >initiative...  :)
>
> >In fact, I'm trying to figure out how to convert the system over to Hell 
>on
>
> >Earth (our current ongoing campaign).  Anyone done any work on this
>already?
>
>Actually...
>    I kind of like the cards. I don't run the DL, but I play it, and I find
>it enjoyable as I do the poker chips, adds a little character to the game.
>but that's another list...

We're not big on the cards for initiative - for Huckster castings it's okay. 
  It's just a pain to juggle that many cards in even mid-sized battles.

Chips are...so-so.  I like the mechanic in general, but the concept of "Your 
Survival Points are also Your Experience Points" is a somewhat overused 
concept (Torg, DC Heroes, Deadlands/HoE).  Sometimes what it adds up to is 
if your character was the target of a couple of lucky die rolls or 
something, you have to spend your Hero Points/Possibility Points/Bounty 
Chips...and therefore end up with less experience.

BNW addresses that "problem" (if you consider it such) by separating out the 
two.  Experience is experience - delta points are delta points, and never 
the two shall meet.

Of course, that raises a minor kinda thing we noted.  Anyone ever seen a 
last-minute "rush" on spending delta points.  Since there's no reason to 
save them, we've noted it occasionally gets to a point where everybody dumps 
them on a single less-than-significant roll near the end of the night.

It's certainly the players' choice to spend DPs as they wish.  Still, it 
seems like whether they achieve a certain key skill roll can sometimes 
depend more on when during the session it occurs...

>    I understand what your saying... it's that the strength has more of an
>impact on it's respective area than does intelligence. I think the
>difference is comparing apples to oranges so to speak. The intelligence
>based stuff is heavy skill base... a ton of skills listed, and 
>really...with
>all the possibilities, the intelligence is open-ended in its applications.
>That really is my point
>

Hmmm, well it wasn't actually my point.  :)  What I meant is that Strength 
has an impact on _more_ areas than Smarts.  It gives you a bonus to Skills, 
it gives you better lifting and jumping, it gives you the ability to take 
more wounds, it gives you more damage in HTH combat.  By comparison Smarts 
simply gives you a bonus to Skills.

Now, granted, very few systems have all their attributes absolutely balanced 
and equally useful among each other.  What % of DND characters worry about 
Charisma unless their character class requires it?  I'll cheerfully admit 
that.  But by the same token, and acknowledging that as a given, I'd say I 
still have some concerns with the seeming over-importance of Strength in 
BNW.

>JohnII
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