Re: Re: [pyrnet] Re: Pano and diet

[Blue Steel Great Pyrenees <bluesteel.greatpyrenees@verizon.net>]

> > Joe
> I was hoping to see the part about diet changing genetics that was offered up earlier.  Maybe that is still to come?

This was food for thought and to me is common sense.   As Linda wrote if you eat just a grapefruit yes you will feel lousy.   Well, if you feed your dog dried up food with little or no nutritional value - then they too eventually will feel lousy - moreso I worry about the offspring and their offspring.   Is it coincidence that we are seeing more cases of cancer in our dogs along with other genetic breakdowns?   Could it be that over the years of feeding poor nutrionally based foods they have taken their toll?   

> As Linda implied, look out for dietary claims from the commercial interests.  They call it marketing <G>.
> 
No kidding duh!  What do you feed your dogs?   Do they not "market" their foods?  Look at the foods that now contain glucosamine - which really is silly once it's cooked out it has no value at all - but folks buy into it!

Studies - studies - well to warrant a study folks need to speak up and one way is to fill out a Health Survey..... vbg!   If there is such a high incidence of Pano out there as you say Joe, then the Canine Health Foundation should be made aware of this from the GPCA and maybe a scientific study can be done.

If you don't have the Health Survey you can easily download it from the GPCA Health Site http://www.gpcahealth.org/healthsurvey2004.pdf

You will need Adobe Reader http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readermain.html

Take care,
Dianne


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> From: JGentzel@aol.com
> Date: 2004/11/04 Thu PM 04:53:33 EST
> To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
> Subject: Re: Re: [pyrnet] Re: Pano and diet
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> The link provided by Judith is a balanced, no agenda or if any, small agenda, piece that is sensible and informative.  Note the most important statement made IMHO:
> 
> "It is not excess protein that causes joint problems, but over feeding dogs can contribute to arthritis and orthopedic problems. Please note that most orthopedic and joint problems are inherited, but puppies and dogs that are over weight have a greater chance of an increase in pain and discomfort, and the potential of developing orthopedic problems as younger animals and arthritis later on in their life."  
> 
> Same for Pano.  The problem with anecdotal info is the constantly changing state of the pano can frequently coincide with some other changes and the mistake can be made that the change caused the pano symptom change.  When it was more likely that, with the pano changing often and over long period of times anyway, so the change is not easily associated with one change of diet.  Same is basically true of Albon, that's why I parse my words to say I believe now, over many cases with fairly reliable same type and time period changes for the improvement of the symptoms, that Albon appears to help.  Is it 100%?  No, nothing is.  But very reliable now in my hands.  What I do nutritionally is give a higher quality diet, i.e. more digestible and maybe fresher.  My friends concur and are cautious about making false associate and stating them as fact as well. 
> Back to the link  
> I agree mostly with what it says especially the part about "most are inherited" and diet and weight mainly causing problems within the part of the inherited problem or tendency.  
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> I was hoping to see the part about diet changing genetics that was offered up earlier.  Maybe that is still to come?
> 
> As Linda implied, look out for dietary claims from the commercial interests.  They call it marketing <G>.
> 
> Joe
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