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Re: [pyrnet] Help- I've just rescued a Pyr Pup



Jennifer,
 
Congratulations both for you and for Coupe. 
 
My two pyrs were both nibblers.  I had the first one, Jascha, with two other dogs - one of whom - a black lab - could and did eat everything in sight.  She developed a weight problem and was on a diet most of her life.  Jascha learned to eat because if he did not, there was nothing for him.  My new pup's breeder suggested a similar thing for Charlie - feed him, leave the bowl down for 20 minutes, then remove it.  He will learn to eat when food is offered.  I have to admit, as a now single dog household (the others have gone on due to old age) I let him nibble, but he does eat the largest portion of his food immediately when it is served.  Just be careful for the other dogs weight if you do allow nibbling.  I was never successful at feeding three dogs in three different locations.  I got all three to wait for meals and served them in order but if one walked away from the bowl early, the next would jump in to finish. 
 
Also, you have a lot of training opportunities, give him good treats or biscuits that will count in his calorie intake.  The SPCA classes I take Charlie to, recommends not feeding the dog before class and bringing the equivalent of dinner in good snacks (the usual kibble mixed with cheese or hotdogs, the kibble absorbs the taste).  This is easier for a miniature whatever than a pyr but you get the idea.  A hungry dog is more likely to perform for treats and a pyr is just stubborn enough that the extra edge helps you get his attention.
 
Many others will argue the finer points of the food, but as long as it is a good quality large breed food, it is probably ok.  Did the Vet give a reason?  Did his dog do better on one?  Does he sell the other?  Charlie eats the Eukanuba.  But who knows, maybe a change in food will perk up Coupe's appetite and he will eat more.  Playing with two large dogs will get him eating more too!
 
Feed him as much as he eats, you can't force him to eat more and it might cause worse problems if you try.  My breeder suggested adding a bit of cottage cheese to Charlie's kibble a few times a week.  I add some canned food or some appropriate leftovers at dinner but only in his bowl, never from the table or while I am standing in the kitchen.  I try to feed him just before dinner and if he stays away from the table, a leftover treat in the bowl after we finish.  I have heard that the extras will keep the dog from eating the kibble but if Charlie is hungry he eats it all up. 
 
I believe that an all soft food diet is bad for their teeth because the stuff sticks to their teeth and forms placque so don't add soup and let the kibble absorb it too often.   You can brush his teeth - really not so difficult - or give him tough rubber toys to clean them up.  Kongs work well and will last through the puppy chew stages.  Coupe will be approaching time to shed the puppy teeth and get big dog teeth so you will need many chew toys anyway.
 
Have fun!  Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: Jenn Hair
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: [pyrnet] Help- I've just rescued a Pyr Pup

Hi everyone,
     Well, sadly its the same old story.  People get a cute, irresistible Pyr pup and discover at about 5 months that he is too big and too much to handle.  Fortunately for this pup, I happen to be a Pyr lover and he happened to be my neighbors' dog. 
     I need help, because I'm fairly new to Pyrs.  I got my first Pyr last year from a rescue group, and just fell in love with the breed.  I've never had a pup before.  As with babies, everyone wants to give me "helpful" advice, but I know with all the experience between all of you that I will get advice that I can trust.  Here's the problem:
 
My vetrinarian is recommending that I feed "Eukanuba Large Breed Puppy Food".
The puppy is already on "Nutro Large Breed Puppy Food".  Is Eukanuba really better?  Does anybody have any suggestions/experiences to share?
 
Next, Couper, that's the pup's name is a nibbler.  My Golden Retriever,Chase, is a chow hound, and I never have had any trouble getting him to finish his food.  My rescued Pyr, Bailey, was also a nibbler, but soon got over that.  However, this pup is on the thin side and the vet wants him to gain weight.  Does anyone have any suggestions.  I thought about feeding him in his crate, but I'm afraid he'll know over his food and make a mess.  I do have special feeding dishes for his crate, but you know how clumsy that are at this age. 
 
Lastly, I'm not sure how much to feed him.  The bag says between 6 1/2 to 7 3/4 cups, but Coupe barely finishes 5 3/4 a day.  His old owners were mixing wet food in with his dry food, but I've always been told that it's really bad for their teeth.  Help!!!!  What should I do.
Thanks in advance for all your advice.
 
Jennifer


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