Re: [pyrnet] OCD of the shoulder

["Jim & Barb Hurlbutt" <jbhurlbutt@mindspring.com>]

So pleased that our experience is in the context of professional input and
others experiences.  If our Rudy had been as bad as Patou, and we saw little
improvement, we would have done the surgery quite quickly...I would never
want to urge someone to do the wrong thing.

That price was for one shoulder and was more than a year ago.  The
specialist has a hospital in Apex, NC...name doesn't come to mind.  I
remember that he teaches at one of the local vet schools and was recommended
to us as having credentials extraordinaire, he used to be our vets
professor.  I took one look at the hospital and thought 'high
overhead'...and someone also told me that our local vet would have gotten a
fee from the surgeon if we did the surgery.   Reading your comment about the
cost being high is no surprise to me at all, probably is.

I remember something about 'scraping the inside of the joint and cutting
away any flap of cartilage' during our consult appt., but I don't recall
anything about restoring circulation to the area.  Certainly the black cloud
of arthritis was not painted vividly, maybe he said it and we didn't get it,
his vocabulary was that of a highly trained technician.

One of the things that pains me to learn is that it is virtually a certainty
that we will be fighting arthritis soon.  Britty has popping hocks  in both
back legs and Rudy had/has the OCD in both front legs. Should we reconsider
surgery now for Roo even though he is not having trouble now?

I didn't know how much I didn't know, until I knew, and it's probably too
late.  @*#&%^  Off to read about arthritis and tromp through the OCD stuff,
it's going to be a busy weekend.  Thanks much for the tact/diplomacy from
the pros!

Barb H &
3 pyrs, waiting for me to shut down and go nightie-night:-)



...   That sounds like for both shoulders.  If that's just one that's
awfully high.  What
happens is the cage rest might work and it might not.  Depends on how
extensive the
OCD is, ie, are there already joint mice, etc or just a flap and has the
flap broken off
or not yet.  Really only a specialist can give you the scoop.  On a showing,
working
dog 100% or close to 100% is do the surgery before arthritis sets in and you
follow
recuperation instructions.  Generally rest might, usually not 100% and the
dog
develops arthritis very early in the process.  No surgery it's a for sure
arthritis
develops because the cartilage is not ever the way it's supposed to be like
it would
be when the surgery is done and they remove the slap and do a sort of
punching
technique to bring blood flow back to area and let it grow to try to get to
the closest
what the cartilage should be like.  If the development of arthritis starts
before surgery
is done the results won't be as good at all.

Janice, janices@austin.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Janice Swenson <janices@austin.rr.com>
To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [pyrnet] OCD of the shoulder


> On 16 Nov 2001 at 9:50, Jim  & Barb Hurlbutt wrote:
> > The cost we were quoted was around $1,700 just for surgery and there
> > were rehab costs too.  One thing that our specialist mentioned that
> > helped us: "surgery is always an option"...if he has trouble later, we
> > can fix it then...and we will.
>
> That sounds like for both shoulders.  If that's just one that's awfully
high.  What
> happens is the cage rest might work and it might not.  Depends on how
extensive the
> OCD is, ie, are there already joint mice, etc or just a flap and has the
flap broken off
> or not yet.  Really only a specialist can give you the scoop.  On a
showing, working
> dog 100% or close to 100% is do the surgery before arthritis sets in and
you follow
> recuperation instructions.  Generally rest might, usually not 100% and the
dog
> develops arthritis very early in the process.  No surgery it's a for sure
arthritis
> develops because the cartilage is not ever the way it's supposed to be
like it would
> be when the surgery is done and they remove the slap and do a sort of
punching
> technique to bring blood flow back to area and let it grow to try to get
to the closest
> what the cartilage should be like.  If the development of arthritis starts
before surgery
> is done the results won't be as good at all.
>
> Janice, janices@austin.rr.com
> Lana & Linsey (newfs), Sonny (pyr)
> http://home.austin.rr.com/janices/
> Hutto, TX
>
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