Yes! A hackamore! Guess it's easy to tell I haven't been on a horse in 25 years! <G> Anyway, that's what a Halti or Gentle leader reminds me of... And I believe (from what my mid 40's brain can remember) that they work in a somewhat similar manner. Barb Bowes Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs), Flopsy (Pyr Shep) & Machin (Doxie) The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! bamb@monmouth.com