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Re: [pyrnet] new pyr owner



Thanks for the advice!  I think I may have given the wrong impression that "Bonny" is lively -- she's not!  Do Pyr (or dogs in general) sleep a lot?  It's just that when she does get active, she's so big!  Is it possible to play with her the way she plays (ie running at a person, front legs down, bum up, scooting off etc.) and have her learn that she can't jump up?  Or does this kind of play give her mixed messages?  She really is a sweetheart, is very gently with the children (who climb all over her) and does an excellent job barking to keep the bears away.  We've really fallen in love with her!  But the kids would like to play with her.  We have a Border Collie next door (the two have yet to agree on heirarchy and it's quite comical watching their antics -- especially the BC who is playing some highly intellectual mindgames, and has become somewhat depressed over losing "her" kids to another dog.)  She plays catch, etc.  Do/can Pyrs learn this kind of play?
 
Jeannie
 
 
P.S. I cannot physically, on my own, get Bonny into the "sit" position.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Barb Bowes
Sent: 23 June, 2001 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [pyrnet] new pyr owner

First, welcome to the list!
 
Hi out there.  Our family has recently adopted a 2 year old female spayed pyr.  She has been working on a sheep farm for the past while, but her previous owners they found that she was too socialized and kept leaving the sheep.  She is great with our kids, adores the attention, but we have a few wrinkles to iron out.  Perhaps you could help!
 
1)  When we groom her, which she seems to absolutely love, she often gives "love bite" which I feel should be discouraged.  Any thoughts?
 
Give her a firm NO! and push her head away from you. If she continues with this behavior, stop the grooming session.
 
2)  She doesn't know how to play with people, and tends to jump on us (her claws are sharp, and she's very big.) 
 
Give her a firm OFF! command and push her away or turn your back on her and do not acknowledge her unless she stops jumping. You can also teach her to sit. Give her the OFF! command, then the Sit! command, when she sits, praise her.
 
The kids want to play with her, but don't know how to do so.  She played baseball with us the other day (getting excited and running around), and knocked our 3 year old over in her excitement. 
 
She's still young and active, supervise play (perhaps on lead) when she is around younger children.
 
She also puts a paw onto a person (usually their leg) when she wants to be petted.  I've got bruises all over my legs, and I get nervous when I'm in shorts.  When we tell her no, she'll turn her head aside, but continue to do it.  If I get quite adamant that I mean no, she thinks it's an invitation to play (translate wrestle).  Suggestions?
 
This is a Pyr trait. I tell them NO PAW! and remove the paw. When they sit quietly for a few seconds I say GOOD No PAW in a happy voice and praise lavishly. If they continue, to hit with the paw, I move away and ignore them. They get no attention unless they keep their paws to themselves.
 
3)  We'd love to be able to go hiking and access the wooded area behind our home without restricting her to a leash (which gets twisted around trees, or tugs our arms out when she spots a rabbit,) but Bonny will not come when called.  She'll also hang out in the yard for a short while with us, but then decide she wants to explore and trots away.  Attempts at training, (I'll call her and then go get her, release her and call her to me  -- then she comes to me, I praise etc. then increase the distance) have now started to backfire, because the last time she left, she left galloping, looking over her shoulder.  I do not punish her (including confining her right away) when she does run.  Should I be?
 
Pyrs CANNOT be allowed off leash. Their recall is NEVER reliable enough to trust them. They need good fencing and leashing at all times. The tendency to roam farther and farther afield has been bred into them for centuries. It's not going to change, no matter how well you train. To keep her safe, allow her off lead only in fenced areas, and use a leash everywhere else.
 
We are new not only to Pyrs but also to dogs.  We'd love advice!
 
Jeannie
 
Love your girl, but understand that she is a Pyr, with a Pyr personality. You will have to adjust to that personality.
 
Barb Bowes
Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs), Flopsy (Pyr Shep) & Machin (Doxie)
The more people I meet, the more I like my dog!
bamb@monmouth.com