RE: [pyrnet] neighbors.

[tom@edge.net (Thomas Snyder)]

We live in rural Tennessee.  The rule here is:  if a dog comes on your
property, shoot it, bury it deep, and keep your mouth shut.  Any one of our
neighbors will kill our dogs if they're found in with the cattle.  If your
neighbors only complain, consider yourselves lucky.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org [mailto:owner-pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org]On
Behalf Of Sherri Artz
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:39 AM
To: 'pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org'
Subject: RE: [pyrnet] neighbors.


This neighbor situation is quite hard for me.  I am torn on both sides
sometimes.

I have a neighbor with two pyrs and a chow.  Shortly after we moved in, my
fiancée was calling the sheriff about the dogs barking all night. They
roamed free and barked all night. Then they were coming right on our front
porch and peeing on our front door and new log chairs.  I never supported
him calling the sheriff due to the barking because it was far enough away to
me that it just didn't feel right (about 600 yards away).  Then one night I
was sick and couldn't sleep and I finally knew what he had been going
through (he is a somewhat light sleeper).  I was going nuts with them
barking.  We live in the foothills about 30 miles outside of Boulder,
Colorado and the mentality is "we moved to the mountains so our animals can
run free and do as they please"  If they lived in a secluded area on 5 acres
I would agree, but they have at least 4 neighbors within 300 yards.  I still
would never personally call the sheriff due to the barking but I do have a
better understanding of the problem from the side of neighbor trying to
sleep.  I would rather lose sleep than alienate the neighbors.  We tried
talking to the neighbor and he said "yes, they are barking, that is what
they have been doing for 5 years and that is what they are suppose to do".
Anyway, our county is so screwed up, it has severe laws regarding barking
dogs and especially dogs at large, but no one tracks to violations,
therefore, it is easy to get out of violations.  I have always felt very
uncomfortable about involving the sheriff until one of the pyrs and the chow
which roamed free attacked a dog right in front of my house.  I didn't yet
have  my pyr, but I knew once I did (it was in the works), anyone who was
attacked by a pyr in front on my house would probably assume it was mine,
and after seeing the dogs almost hit on the highway that lies 300 yards away
and after countless urine stains on my front door, mat and new log chairs I
agreed to support my fiancée on the dog at large call.  Now I feel awful,
the poor dogs are penned up all the time now.  They went from roaming free
all the time to being penned up.  They are not allowed in the house.  One
nice neighbor lady sometimes walks them with her dogs because she pities
them.  Now one of my closest neighbor and my fiancée don't speak because,
the neighbor was going to be witness for the owner of the barking dogs, even
though he totally support our situation until the trail (which never
happened).  Sometimes I think I would rather have the urine all over the
front porch, my dogs barking at his dogs in my yard and a very grumpy
fiancée so those dogs could have some freedom.  I am so torn over the
situation.  I realize the problem is the irresponsible owner, but it the
dogs that suffer.
Sherri

-----Original Message-----
From: Pacerized@aol.com [mailto:Pacerized@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 9:41 PM
To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
Subject: Re: [pyrnet] neighboors.


  I'm sure neighbor problems and pyrs are common. I have just over 1/2 acre
that is almost all fenced in, but our land is pie shaped so I have several
neighbors in very close proximity. My closest neighbor is a couple in their
early 60's that must be very sensitive to sound, because the only complaint
I've had from them were while my dogs were inside my house. If you haven't
tried a good anti-bark shock collar in your situation (and tried it
properly), I would suggest it. They are totally humane, and in my case have
made for happier neighbors, and I think in the long a happier quality of
life
for the dogs.
     My only gripe in my neighborhood is with people who let their dogs run
free. My neighbor behind me has a basset hound that runs free, and will come

right up to my fence all the time, which in turn will make my dogs bark. I
don't understand how anyone could just let their dog roam, let alone in a
suburb with 3100 homes in it.  I would guess that at least 20% of the dog
owners in my community do this, and their is an ordinance against it.
Charlie




yes, boone does jump the four-foot fence. well, i wouldn't call it
jumping, exactly: that would be too lively a term. he really just stands
up, leans forward over the fence, and lets his body weight do the rest.
he will do this unless we are RIGHT next to him. if we stand at the top
of yard and wait for him to do his business, he is gone.
there is a creek down the street and a lake behind us, so he always comes
home happy and muddy.
most of the intolerant neighboors are dog owners. they have no idea how
pig-headed this breed is as far as roaming. they think that because he
gets out occasionally, that means we don't take care of him.
one neighboor called the aspca (who had the good sense not to do
anything) the week we tried an idea out of a pyr book that said to attach
a drag. the dogs in that book had old tires hanging from sturdy collars
to limit their ability to jump up. we knew that that would look strange,
so we tried a metal pole about a foot and a half wider than the dog. this
worked very well; boone stayed home and it was easy to attach to his
collar as we let him out. problem solved until this woman started calling
everyone in the neighborhood to tell them how awful and stupid we were.
our neighbor on the other side said that if the dog barks one time at
night, even from in the house, he will call the police and press charges.
i have explained and explained, and apologized and BAKED!!! for these
people. they see hubby working on the fence. they see us out back playing
with the dog. they know we have already spent hundreds of dollars on
fencing, but they are convinced it's us.
and thus ends my rant. thank you for listening.
cari from cincinnati
and boonie
p.s. no, we can't afford to move.







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