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Re: [PyrNet-L] Breeding/rescue debate



Of serious note. I did attempt to respond to a rescue Pyr from Texas about
seven weeks ago. The reply that I got said that their organization would not
send one out of their area. I really believe that there are many more
possible homes out here. There is just a lack of coordination and
communication between groups. What Say you good people?

Terry Rickert
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack & Charlotte Perry <pyreau@erols.com>
To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 7:41 PM
Subject: [PyrNet-L] Breeding/rescue debate


> Lara, Darell, Kelly and all.
>     Some really thought provoking discussion on resuce and breeding.  I
> do think that Lara has the right idea about educaiton, but the rescue
> situation has really gotten out of hand in our area.  I think our club
> has had 10 rescue dogs in the past 2 months.  We have fostered 4 of
> those dogs. It is a very frustrating thing when you spend hours talking
> to prospective owners, rearrange your weekends so they can visit the
> dogs and then they don't turn up.  This has happened over and over and
> over again. After reading some of the messages, I realized that I have
> put my own dogs second because of the rescue dogs.  I have been so busy
> looking for homes for these rescue dogs that I have not mentioned to any
> of the nice people who would make wonderful owners that we actually have
> a very handsome, healthy young male with a wonderful temperament and
> championship pedigree that we have decided does not fit into our
> breeding program and would live a happier life as a beloved pet.  I
> would love to find a good home for him, but I can keep him and there are
> all those rescue dogs needing homes. It is a real problem.  We have not
> had a litter of pups for two years and one reason is that there are so
> many people breeding "livestock
> guarding Pyrs" in our area.  The scary thing is that many of those dogs
> have major health and temperament problems.  These owners simply think
> of them as a "cash crop".  Here we are, having spent years and years
> studying pedigrees and trying to figure out which dogs produce the best
> in looks,  disposition as well as health and longevity., etc. feeling
> as though we should not breed because of all these other dogs that  need
> homes.  So, I do understand both points of view ....the need to help the
> homeless dogs but also the need to pass on some of the outstanding
> features of quality Pyrs. I wish there was an easy answer. Still there
> is something to seeing a really sweet homeless dog go to a wonderful new
> family.(thanks Kim :) )
> Thanks for letting me vent some steam.
> Charlotte
>
> Lara & Jimmy Spears wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ame McNair <ame63@hotmail.com>
> > To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Breeding/rescue debate
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > darrell goolsbee <dgg@star-telegram.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >I was speaking in terms of conformation,
> >
> > Darryl you have made a good point.   I have been thinking about this but
not
> > from this angle:-)   I personally have been striving to create ways to
> > inform club members and others in the area about the breed standard.
Not to
> > necessarily tell them what is 'wrong' with their dogs.  But to assist
them
> > when they become afflicted with the potato chip factor!   Educated
buyers
> > often end up happy buyers.   Educate them on health issues, structural
> > issues, etc.  Knowing the right questions to ask in this area will
hopefully
> > save some of the heartbreak that I often hear from people that have
> > purchased from a back yard breeder or farm breeder.   On the top of the
> > heartbreak list is hip displasia and bad or agressive tempermants.    On
the
> > flip side if they decide to go with a rescue dog they will be better
> > prepared with knowledge about the breed - they will at the least know
what
> > to expect.    I personally try to encourage people that are looking for
a
> > companion to adopt a rescue dog. This gives these dogs a home and takes
one
> > more puppy buyer away from the BYB.
> >
> > Ame mentioned there was not the phenomenom in GA.  Well, I don't know
about
> > the state as a whole, but in the Atlanta area,  unfortunately there
:(  We
> > have quite a few lama farms, etc. that breed for livestock guardian
dogs.
> > These breedings are consider commodoties from what I understand after
> > speaking with a few of them.  Their top goal is not the breed's
interest -
> > but if they can guard and if they can make them money.   I understand
one of
> > the farm breeders has decided not to breed anymore after we provided her
> > with materials to review on what to consider when breeding a Pyr.
Besides
> > the farms we also have a number of bigger back yard breeders in the
Atlanta
> > area.  In addition to the smaller back yard breeders.    I have seen
> > horrible coat types, bad tempermants, bad conformation, etc. etc. from
these
> > byb.     The only true weapon is to educate the buyers, potential
buyers,
> > and breeders.  Basically anybody that will listen!
> >
> > My 2 cents...........:-)
> >
> > Lara Spears
> >
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