[PyrNet-L] Shock Collar Information

[Rsk1951@aol.com]

I was part of this net information almost a year ago and opted to drop out 
after being chastised concerning shock collars. I am not returning for any 
other reason than to give you information concerning the results of using a 
collar  on my pry.

Sebastian is an almost 5 year old male, neutered, pyr who has had his 
runaways---due to my allowing him off leash in a park near our home. I was 
convinced that he was "devoted " to me. Was I ever wrong.I e-mailed the pyr 
internet group and was thoroughtly chastised at the thought of using a shock 
collar on him. I thought long and hard about this but decided to give it a 
try and we are in a pretty safe area with no roads as threats.

It has changed my life as well as Sebastian's.I initially worked on the 
"come" command, which we had worked on previously without the collar. I only 
had to say "come" once and then use the lowest stimulation on the collar, to  
     have him respond immediately.I know that most of you consider this 
cruel, however, I strongly disagree and this is why I elected to return to 
this forum. I have found that Sebastian and I have a totallly new and more 
exhilerating life as a result of this collar----which BTW I only use, 
probably once a month on  meduium stiimulation, which I think is his attempt 
to see if it still works.He is not "diminished in stature, or different in 
ANY way. I truly believe he is happier being off leash and I KNOW I certainly 
am.I never believed it was possible to have aPyr off leash, after being 
bombarded with so many posts aabout the impossibility of it, but wanted to 
post this message to let you know that my guy is just fine being on a shock 
collar off leash. He chases foxes and deer and knows that when I say "Come", 
he stops on a dime and does really come.I hesitated posting this as I was 
afraid that I would incur the wrath of so many pyr owners tha t so totally 
oppose shock collars, however, I have hs such a positive experience, and I 
love this Big Guy so much that I wanted to let you all know what my 
experience has been.