Re: [PyrNet-L] Ivermectin

[Jack & Charlotte Perry <pyreau@erols.com>]

Thanks so much for all the good info re. invermectin.  We have talked to a
couple of Vets, in fact one even suggested we try this. Several people
suggested squirting the mixture down the dogs throat (diluted w. liquid
vitamins for taste).  Another person says it is easiest to inject under the
skin, but may sting.  Has anyone tried both methods?
Charlotte

Pyrs RGreat wrote:

> Jack/Charlotte,
>
> --- Dolores Neal <dneal@scan.missouri.org> wrote:
> > We have used Ivomec injectible, for cattle & swine, for at least
> > the last 15 years.  We give it orally. One cc   pr 100#...
>
> Patric here.  The dose that Dolores gives may be a little on the high
> end.  I would need to know the actual concentration of the injectable
> she uses.  Fortunately, Pyrs are not as sensitive to high doses of
> ivermectin as other breeds (such as collies), so yoou can reasonably
> safely give a dose that's a little high.
>
> > > ...It has been suggested that we can use bovine
> > > ivermectin that does the same thing but is much cheaper.  Has
> > > anyone had any experience with this?
>
> None of what I'm about to say below must be construed a veterinary
> advice - if you are interested in this kind of switch, bring this post
> to your veterinarian and let him/her make the decision!  I'm not a DVM!
>
> That said, I'm going out on the limb (as usual, sawing it behind me as
> I go...) with the following information:
>
> We use the oral liquid for horses.  Now, it is actually illegal for the
> vet to give a prescription for the wrong animal, but most vets would
> likely do it if they know and trust you.
>
> The concentration of the horse-grade ivermectin is much higher than
> what is practical for dogs.  The volume we use per 100 lbs of Pyr
> weight (in gold? ;-) is 30 *microliters*!  When i dos us the dogs each
> month, I draw up approximately 150 microliter (between 0.1 and 0.2)
> using a 1 cc tuberculin syringe.  I the dilute this with 5 mls of water
> and give 1.1 ml of this diluted ivermectin for 110 lbs, 0.8 mls for 80
> lbs etc.
>
> The bottle we have (keep it in the fridge) will last some 40-50 years
> at this rate unless we seriously increase the number of dogs we have.
>
> Patric
>
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> Patric Lundberg, PhD
> plundber@coh.org
> Department of Virology
> City of Hope National Medical Center
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