I think I might have started something here!! We are chatty, aren't we! Sorry to those who couldn't get into the Delphi site..apparantly some did, and some didn't. Had a great chat. Talked to Pyr people in Mississippi, 2 in Oregon, Missouri, Wisconsin, and New Jersey. What fun!! I will try it again in 2 weeks. Sharon J. Armstrong WESKYUWIN Pyrs & PBGVs asitapyrs@idmail.com