In a message dated 11/3/98 12:18:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, timparks@pacbell.net writes: << Could someone (or everyone) explain to me (the novice) the gait that a Judge should look for with the Pryenees. >> Tim This is a bit to take up on a list. Try a book on the subject. "Dog Steps" was the classical work by Elliott. There may be others more current. Joe