Fw: [PyrNet-L] chat: help ASAP

["Danita Acquafredda" <genesis@atlantic.net>]

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitzi Potter <Pyrs@prodigy.net>
To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] chat: help ASAP


>On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:44:51 -0800, Danita Acquafredda wrote:
>
>>Regarding the previous post on this subject, I believe it was written
>>differently, creating misunderstanding....it read "he took some cheese of
>>the counter and when I caught him i mistakenly cornered him to punish
him".
>>Unfortunately, the above verbage read to me more like you may have chased
>>him down and mistakenly cornered him to punish him...I thought he was
>>cornered and you raised a hand to punish him (slap) thus creating "fight
or
>>flight" mental status.  However, you have corrected and explained the
>>situation as just walking into the area and verbalizing NO DOWN.
>
>I understand what you're saying. But I would expect my dogs not to bite
under these or
>ANY circumstances.

Neither would I expect any of my dogs to attack me regardless of the
circumstances.  But they are my dogs of which I have had for a very long
time, not only two weeks.  They know my voice, my mannerism and know that I
would never hurt any of them in anyway, shape or form.

A new dog, if being yelled at (in a strong voice) and perhaps cornered,
(mistakenly or not) may not know the intentions of their NEW owner and may
be motived by FEAR rather than intellegence.  Although, I never corner my
dogs to discipline, as I never corner my children, I don't like to instill
fear,  and further treat my dogs such as my children and how I myself would
like to be treated.

There is no blame being placed here.  None of it makes sense, for an owner
to keep a dog that has repeatedly attacked her, how can you love a dog that
attacks you, it doesn't appear that the dog loves his owner....and how could
an attackee of an attackor (Great Pyrnees) consistantly be able to walk away
from these attacks unharmed.  Makes no sense.  As you are well aware, these
prys are enormous fighters, extremely powerful, agile and fast.  I can't see
being consistantly "attacked" by a pyr and being unharmed.

There is obviously a very big problem, when the dog has to be on a "promise
collar", attacks its owner, the owner has to "manhandle" the dog (guess to
protect herself), etc.

Another writer to this thread suggested observing the interactions between
this dog and its owner.  That sounds like a pretty good idea.

Now that is only my opinion, reading what has been provided.  Hopefully, the
owner will utilize some help that she has requested and that others have
offered, as it stands, it appears to be a very unfortunate situation,
perhaps even a bad mix of personalities between owner and dog.  You know
sometimes that can happen, just a bad blend of personalities.  Maybe a new
owner would be the perfect solution for both.

For what its worth,
Danita
genesis@atlantic.net








We, as humans, sometimes make the wrong move when correcting
>our dogs. If we expect to pay by being bitten, then who exactly is in
charge here?? If a dog
>is going to attack when cornered, it's just a matter of time before he
attacks under some
>other circumstance also. The dog was obviously aggressive before this
incident (which
>the owner knows now). She shouldn't "expect" to get attacked by her dog
because she
>accidently corrects him improperly a time or 2 (or 3 or 4 or 5). That's
placing the guilt of
>the attack on HER, and that's not where it belongs.
>Mitzi Potter    Okla City   OK
>Pyrs@prodigy.net
>http://members.aol.com/fivepyrs/dogsz.htm
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