On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:00:18 -0700, Patti Brunkala wrote: >Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think holding by the ruff (the >mane, or neck, high up next to the head though) might be safer (for the >pup) than holding by the muzzle? You're right. It also gives you more control than just grabbing the muzzle. Mitzi Potter OKC OK Pyrs-R-Us@popline.com http://www.popline.com/quinnz/dogs.htm