Maimed is Maimed. The TN can't go any higher than 13. However, unless you're Harrowed, have 5 levels in Regeneration (I'm probably off on the name), and a WHOLE lotta meat and time, rolling Stun for that 10 wounds to the Guts is the least of your worries. Maimed may be Maimed, but there's a question of degree- 5 Wounds is Maimed, but 10 is double that! Nick Zachariasen