Re: [HOE] Stone's Stats (spoiler) (Long, Lots of Replies in one!!!)

["Ray C." <r_a_c_@hotmail.com>]

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>Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:50:11 -0600
>From: zacharin@pluto.dsu.edu
>Subject: Re: [HOE] Stone's Stats (spoiler)
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>Nope, I seem to recall reading that they're Dragoons.

I doubt it.  Dragoons are "Saddle Pistols", huge mothers that are *DARN* 
hard to wear (And, more importantly, DRAW!) from a belt.  Army's were 
lighter, easier to carry, easier to draw, and (Most importantly), more 
common when Stone visited the Reaper the first time.

>Nick Zachariasen
>Editor Emeritus
>Trojan Times
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>Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:35:13 -0500
>From: jyates@primaryfunction.com
>Subject: Re: [HOE] Stone's Stats (spoiler)
>He's mentioned as carrying Dragoons and Armies in various places.  A reason
>given that the "future" Stone doesn't carry a whix-bang future weapon is
>that he can easily replace an 1800's era Colt.  So I'm took that to mean
>that his guns aren't relics, or even particularly well-made.  He's totally
>pragmatic about his weapons.  A pair of pistols that reloads are easy to 
>get
>is sufficient.  He might lean towards pistols he can fan, because he
>probably  will hit with all shots he wishes to fan.  If you run into Stone
>in the 20th or 21st centuries, he might be carrying semi-auto pistols or
>assault rifles, because he can get reloads for them easy.

Ya...  Except that Stone's guns *ARE* relics...  "Personal" Relics via one 
of his "Super-Deader" powers.  They reload automatically when he spins the 
cylinders.  At least, I'm pretty sure I remember that being one of his 
powers.

'Course, Stone with a .44 Magnum or that new S&W Model 500 would be 
something to fear!!!

>When my posse met Stone, they just about messed their pants.  They did
>atleast try to determine how much shooting they needed to do while running
>away to make it seem at least a little dangerous to follow them.  Stone
>wasn't intent on killing them at the time, but one player who is not
>familiar with the setting didn't know exactly how bad Stone is.  He tried 
>to
>draw down on Stone -- I fanned five bullets into him.  I didn't miss with
>the sixth, I was saving it for later.  Took every chip he had and left him
>with 3 wounds. The second time they met Stone the posse used
>explosives/rockets.  They got lucky with their cards, and blew up Stone.  
>He
>wasn't nearly dead, but I wasn't sure how often they could do that, So 
>Stone
>retreated.  But imagine having a scorched and next to nekkid-due-to-fire
>Stone surviving for later...  The possee was only slightly better off,
>having caught themselves in the blast some too.  That was in 1877.  The
>posse is in HOE time now, and Stone's got more firepower and a two century
>old grudge.

That's pretty much how I'd run it myself.  If you get *DARN* lucky, you just 
stop Stone from killing you then and there.

And making sure that he comes back...  Angry.  ;-)  Good job!

Luckily, I didn't have to.  After the usual "We are so dead!!!" deal...  One 
Player got a really good idea...

He extended his Rifle, butt first, and stated:  "Can I Have Your 
Autograph???"

>Jeff Y.
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>Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:00:13 -0600
>From: mightygecko@juno.com
>Subject: Re: [HOE] Stone's Stats (spoiler)
>I beleive it's been written as both. I think the Weird West marshals
>guide lists them as Dragoons but Lone Stars lists them as Armys. i'd say
>armys. The picture sure looks like Dragoons, and if it was it better be
>amodified version. Standard Dragoons are Cap & Ball. and all that ammo on
>his belt would got to waste. (Not tjhat he ever NEEDS to reload his gun)

Both the Colt Dragoon and Colt Army, when Stone died, were mostly "Cap & 
Ball" Revolvers.  There were conversions out there, but they weren't as 
common yet (Don't forget that he was in the Infantry...  *AND* a simple NCO 
at that, he'd be kind of down the list for re-issue).  After he got out of 
the ground, he probably got 'em converted.  ;-)

And, again, I'm pretty sure that his guns reload themselves just by spinning 
the cylinders.  The Gunbelt is probably just to blend in with the crowd via 
the use of Super-Deader powers.

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>Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 10:03:07 -0700
>From: mikejmaguire@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [HOE] Stone's Stats (spoiler)
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>I seem to recall reading somewhere that they are indeed cap and ball
>pistols, the very ones he used when he was alive, but that Stone's don't
>require him to reload them (ever).  They just do so automatically (possibly
>each time he draws or holsters them, I forget).

Could be that, too.  Hmmmmmmm...  Maybe I'm thinking of another meanie with 
the cylinder spinning thing...

>It might seem like an inferior weapon for such a nasty bad guy, but then
>again...  how many times is Stone likely to have to shoot at the same 
>posse?

How many members are there in your Posse?

That many times.

Each through an eye.  ;-)

Heck, he could carry some purty New York .22 Target Pistol and still be a 
danger!!!

>Mac

Finally, done!

Ray.

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