Re: [HOE] Misc. Saints for All Occasions

["c m hylton" <cmhylton@earthlink.net>]

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephan Elsner" <schnabul@yahoo.de>
To: <hoe@gamerz.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [HOE] Misc. Saints for All Occasions


> Hi there!
>
> His full name was Manfred von Richthofen.
>
> just for completeness.......
>
> greetings, Stephan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "c m hylton" <cmhylton@earthlink.net>
> To: <hoe@gamerz.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [HOE] Misc. Saints for All Occasions
>
>
> > I was thinking of von Richtofen (Sp?) (can't remember his first name to
> save
> > my sanity) aka the Red Baron, but purely based on reputation.  That and
I
> > did a book report in grade school on him.  Must have been the old
aviator
> > headwear my dad had in his closet back when it was cool to wear that
> stuff.
> >
> > C M Hylton
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kartzoffs" <kartzoffs@optusnet.com.au>
> > To: <hoe@gamerz.net>
> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [HOE] Misc. Saints for All Occasions
> >
> >
> > > *snip* I should have a decent Saint of Pilots to work on *snip*
> > > Although I'm not intimately familiar with pilots, a couple of
> suggestions
> > > would be Eddie Richenbacher or the Red Baron. Or alternatively, if you
> > > happen to be Australian, Charles Kingsford-Smith.
> > >
> > > *snip* As for thinking about the
> > > > "Saint of Junkers," I realized that someone may have suggested Percy
> > > > Sitgreaves.  Did anything come of that? *snip*
> > >
> > > Yeah, I made Sitgreaves. Republished below for your perusal.
> > > R Percy Sitgreaves, Patron Saint of Junkers
> > > R Percy Sitgreaves was the first Junker, though not in their current
> form.
> > > He was the one who
> > > created the theories and principles by which Junkers base their own
form
> > of
> > > magic on in his own
> > > Thaumaturgic Diffusion; building devices by the use of forcing the
> > Manitous
> > > of the Hunting
> > > Grounds to aid in the construction process.
> > > Sitgreaves created these theories of Thaumaturgic Diffusion when he
> > > discovered that Mad
> > > Scientists unknowingly consorted with Manitous to build their wondrous
> > > devices. A good man,
> > > Sitgreaves was horrified. He theorised that Mad Science essentially
was
> a
> > > tool of the Reckoners
> > > to bring humanity to some infernal end the Reckoners had in plan (with
> the
> > > development of the
> > > City Busters he was proved right) and so he developed Thaumaturgic
> > Diffusion
> > > to force the
> > > Manitous to aid him in the building of any device.
> > > His fight against the evil inherent in Mad Science was a lone one in
his
> > > lifetime but after him
> > > there were others who saw the evils of Mad Science and now in the
Wasted
> > > West there are the
> > > Junkers who use inhabitants of the Hunting Grounds called Tech Spirits
> to
> > > aid them in the
> > > development of strange devices. It is a practice similar to shamanism
> and
> > > one that Sitgreaves
> > > also developed
> > > Later in his life he had discovered the fledgling Tech Spirits and
began
> > > using techniques similar
> > > to those used by Shamans to acquire the aid of them. However Tech
> Spirits
> > > proved more willing
> > > to serve humanity than the Nature Spirits and Sitgreaves thought he
had
> > > found the replacement
> > > to Mad Science.
> > > Sadly however soon after he made this discovery he disappeared, after
> > being
> > > stalked for many
> > > months by a beast known only as "The Gorgon" and his final fate is
> > unknown.
> > > The Deed:
> > > Similarly to Saint Rising, Saint Sitgreaves has only appeared to a
> > Companion
> > > but differently, one
> > > who was a Junker. He blesses Junker Companions who build devices
> designed
> > to
> > > help
> > > settlements deemed worthy of aid by the beliefs of the Templars. To
> those
> > > blessed by him he
> > > emulate the effect of Tech Spirits called "Browsers" that the Junker
> > > Companion mightn't have.
> > >
> > > R Percy Sitgreaves, Patron Saint of Junkers
> > > Sitgreaves did more for the way of the Junker than any other person
and
> > > almost 200 years
> > > before Junkers even existed. Although he was not remembered after his
> > > disappearance by the
> > > people of his time he is one of the greatest unsung heroes for what he
> did
> > > in the Hunting
> > > Grounds in the 19th Century and how it has helped the folk of the
Wasted
> > > West.
> > > Deed: Sitgreaves appears to Junker Companions who build a device
> designed
> > > for the sole
> > > purpose of aiding a settlement. It has to be a settlement deemed
worthy
> by
> > > the Junker and the
> > > device has to aid the entire settlement so a new rifle for a militia
> > member
> > > won't cut it. A power
> > > generator or a machine that makes medicines will earn Sitgreaves
> attention
> > > however.
> > >
> > > Sitgreaves abilities work differently to other Martyrs in that he can
> mimc
> > > the abilities of a
> > > browser. If your Junker has Sitgreaves as a Saint then he can spend
> chips
> > on
> > > a Browser he
> > > doesn't have. However he can only use each Browser he doesn't have
once
> a
> > > day. Consider this
> > > ability to be using level 5 Browsers.
> > > Vexation: Sitgreaves was appalled by the use of New Science as a means
> of
> > > building weapons
> > > of mass destruction and is similarly appalled by Junkers who use
Junker
> > > Magic for the same
> > > purpose. If your Junker builds a weapon designed to kill several
people
> > > simultaneously then he
> > > is immediately forsaken. What exactly falls under the category
> > > "weapon designed to kill several people" is up to the Marshal but in
> > general
> > > things like Machine
> > > Guns and Bombs and Missiles is what we mean.
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > 2MTD
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "c m hylton" <cmhylton@earthlink.net>
> > > To: <hoe@gamerz.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:57 PM
> > > Subject: [HOE] Misc. Saints for All Occasions
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming any of you are still here (doubtful), then if you're
> > interested
> > > > > I'll post any of them you ask about.
> > > > > Yep, I really lack a life...
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex
> > > > >
> > > > > 2MTD
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Clint Black" <cblack@ohtinc.com>
> > > > > To: <hoe@gamerz.net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:47 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [HOE] Road Warrior Second Chance!!!???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Glad someone was keeping track.  I was but when you delve into the
> DLL's
> > > of
> > > > your computer trying to erase a Trojan Horse, you tend to screw
> > something
> > > > up.
> > > > I think this is more suitable title.  I think we went a bit off
target
> > > from
> > > > the Road Warrior/Redemption/Reward etc that was initially asked.
> > > >
> > > > Now, maybe I should have a decent Saint of Pilots to work on.  Oh,
and
> > > what
> > > > would be the vexation on the "Saint of Redemption," the former
> > > > Biker-turned-do-gooder with a limited lifespan.  As for thinking
about
> > the
> > > > "Saint of Junkers," I realized that someone may have suggested Percy
> > > > Sitgreaves.  Did anything come of that?  Or since the Junkers
started
> to
> > > > rise in the aftermath of Judgement Day after the Manitous left the
> > "Mads,"
> > > > would it be someone after the "Burn."  Need to delve a bit into my
> > > lexicons
> > > > (ugh, I had to use that word, didn't i?) to see if I can find a
likely
> > > > subject.  Or if anyone actually has a decent, admirable, or somewhat
> > > quirky
> > > > Junker who bit the big one and could inspire those in his footsteps
to
> > do
> > > > what's right.  However, I feel that Simon wasn't exactly keen on the
> > > > Junker's way.  Not sure if it was concrete but something about them
> > didn't
> > > > seem to set right with him.  (Mental Note: delve into the "Last
> > Crusaders"
> > > > once again).
> > > >
> > > > C M Hylton
> > > >
> > > >
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