Re: [HOE] This has gone far enough

["SEAN HENKE" <sf14d@msn.com>]

Thanks Dan,

I think you are right. It hasn't turned into a flame war and I think 
everyone has been civil. I guess the problem is that, and I may be wrong 
but, Fred supplied a email address to address him directly and not make it 
an issue in the listserv group. That was the impression I got anyway and 
sent him a response directly on my thoughts for HOE D20.

Everyone can argue or discuss to they are blue in the face but the end 
result is that HOE D20 is coming and there is nothing we can do to stop it 
even if we had a will too. People are going to either play one or the other 
or both. Is one better than the other. We all got our opinions on that. 
Other than speaking there minds most people including myself are just being 
honest. Classic HOE is the way for me and I could never play HOE D20 and say 
my doomsayer casts a magic missile. Call it what you want, wrap it in a 
diffrent wrapper but the end result is going to be a less than perfect 
photocopy of an already awsome product and game world.

That being said, and it is just my opinion on the matter. The bottom line is 
as fans of pinnacle products and I do not believe that a seperate list is 
needed for the D20 HOE gamers. While I will not buy the product myself I 
would still be interested in listing to the changes and suggestions, etc. 
that will be posted. I do play 3ed and would like to keep at least a bit 
current in whats going on with HOE D20 Or Basic HOE in D&D terms.


Sean



>From: "Dan Sulin" <grandmasternilus@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: hoe@gamerz.net
>To: hoe@gamerz.net
>Subject: Re: [HOE] This has gone far enough
>Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:51:09 -0500
>
>>I think I'm beginning to see why the DL llist melted down under
>>the D20 flames and I am sorry that someone chose to bring the
>>discussion over here.
>>
>>I request a new mailing list just for D20, or two lists if someone
>>who gives a cuss thinks it's worth separating DLd20 and HOEd20.
>>
>Some thoughts here.
>
>1) Fred  brought this conversation over,  because HOE D20 is comming out.  
>A
>disscusion was bound to happen
>
>2) Honestly a strict D20 PEG list, I personally don't think will work so
>good,  there just doesn't seem to be enough of you guys.  And Although some
>people don't like D20 here,  there are plenty of us who are willing to try
>and help(I own Deadlands D20, plan on buying HOE D20 and I have played and
>Ran 3rd edition D&D)
>
>3) Honestly although there has been some debate,  this has hardly started 
>to
>turn into a flame war.  As one of my first posts on this subject said,  as
>long as we keep this civil we should be okay.
>
>Oh and for the Record,  I like classic Deadlands,  but I totally undertand
>the two many dice/chips/card debate.  It can be unwieding to a new player(I
>had a lot of trouble teaching the system about 6 months back).  Overall 
>lets
>us all remember we are here to share our idea/opinions/wisdom.  So feel 
>free
>to have a favorite, just don't get pissed when others don't agree with you.
>
>Dan
>
>
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