In a message dated 5/10/2001 9:14:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, grandmasternilus@hotmail.com writes: << They have charts for Cats(big ones) and Birds as well. But they dont give and rules for making them or any edges and flaws, you can wing it though. >> I made a taleteller/comedian with a pet chicken. I liked him. Peter Berard "I got gnus for you, buddy."