Re: [HOE] fightin': florentine (Hopler?)

["Jason Adkins" <livingirony@hotmail.com>]

Well Theo,

     Just call me a generous marshal, but I'd suggest that even though it is 
one attack, try to picture it as something like burst-fire.  In burst fire, 
you get an additional hit for every raise you get.  Each attack has it's 
damage figured separately.  Therefore, the attacks have their damages rolled 
and totalled by themselves.  On the other hand, I require that someone using 
Florentine, must declare before their attack, their intention, and they 
don't get to use the raise used for their extra attack on their location 
roll....plus, I make them roll two different locations, splitting additional 
raises between the two.  No double head shots every other freakin' attack 
for this marshal.  :)  Just my two cents on that........
     Also, as to your query on the fightin' skills.  Go back through and 
read your character generation some more.  It only costs someone 1-5 points 
to pick up an "aptitude" (ie. fightin', shootin', etc.) and one 
"concentration" (ie. sword, club, pistols, smgs, etc.).  If a player wants, 
they may buy additional "concentrations" for a cost of 3 more per 
"concentration", which is gained at the level of your "aptitude".  
Florentine, doesn't require you to buy, "aptitude" levels per se, so much as 
it requires you already have a fightin' "aptitude", and are willing to cough 
up the extra 3 points for the additional "concentration".  Does that make 
sense to you, pardner?  If it doesn't, grab your HoE book, and read up on 
buyin' aptitudes and concentrations.

                              Jason "rules lawyer(I hope...  :)  ) Adkins


>From: Theo McGuckin <tsm@jlab.org>
>Reply-To: hoe@gamerz.net
>To: hoe@gamerz.net
>Subject: Re: [HOE] fightin': florentine (Hopler?)
>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:53:33 -0400 (EDT)
>
> > i'm kind of curious about this, as i have a rediculously powerful
> > templar (for only having been used once, anyway) who uses florentine.
> > the description of fightin': florentine says that if you have a weapon
> > in each hand that you have the appropriate fightin' skills for, and if
> > you get a raise on the fightin': florentine roll, you can use the raise
> > to have the second weapon hit the same location as the first. (basically
> > two melee hits against one location in the same action).  the question
> > is, is the damage for both weapon hits TOTALED and then assessed for
> > wound levels, or are the wound levels dealt by the weapons assessed
> > seperately? the reason for my confusion is that it is technically one
> > attack, not two :) any feedback would be appreciated!
>
>I've also got some confusion on fightin: florentine.
>What is the relation between it and the fightin' skill you're using (say,
>fightin' sword). Do you have to have both? At the same level? What is the
>effect if one is higher than the other? What if you are using a sword and
>a knife? So you need florentin, and sword, and knife?
>
>To be honest in our group we took the fightin': florentine CONCEPT and
>just applied it to anyone who was two-fisted and using two melee weapons.
>We threw the skill out and just let the edge handle it.
>Maybe each point in florentine could negate 1pt. of the +4TN for the off
>hand or something?
>
>- Theo McGuckin, an obedient lackey licking the soft leather boot of High
>Energy Particle Physics.
>
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