In a message dated 03/28/2000 12:42:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, PEGGoff@aol.com writes: << Short of using a fu power, he probably couldn't damage them since he's using a natural (weaponless) attack? >> True but, with the Martial Arts training you do str+1d6 as a weapon. As for Fu powers, well if he has a good chi score then he can do a fair amount. O.W. Jones Inventor and Gunsmith