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RE: [DL] Fanning, Single and Double action pistols.

To: deadlands@gamerz.net
Subject: RE: [DL] Fanning, Single and Double action pistols.
From: Mark Buenaluz <dagnir7879@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:30:56 -0700 (PDT)
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That is what i figured it was from but maybe i missed
something. then again i only read the 2 core books and
the first edtion books about only 5 times.....

mark

--- David Sumpter <lordthrog@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It was mentioned in an earlier post that it's
> alluded
> to in Law Dogs, where you can have a DA revolver
> modified with either Set Triggers or Hair Triggers,
> to
> offset the -1 penalty.  The actual rule for the -1
> penalty was cut from the book, however.
> 
> --- Mark Buenaluz <dagnir7879@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > where in the rules does it say that the second
> shot
> > from a DA revolver gets a -1 to hit??
> > 
> > mark
> > 
> > P.S. it has been a while since have looked through
> > the
> > books, 
> > 
> > 
> > --- David Sumpter <lordthrog@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm a little confused, the weapon spreed rules
> > were
> > > dropped in the Revised Edition books, which are
> > the
> > > most recent.  What it comes down to is a SA can
> > fire
> > > every action (as long as there are shots left). 
> A
> > > DA
> > > can fire twice every action with a -1 applied to
> > the
> > > second shot.  
> > > 
> > > --- Bobby Farris <herogm@redbow.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I am really studying this problem and thanks
> for
> > > all
> > > > the replies. Basically
> > > > under the original rules the SA had a higher
> > rate
> > > of
> > > > fire, but at a penalty
> > > > and could fan. Now, it has a lower rate of
> fire.
> > I
> > > > am thinking of saying the
> > > > SA can also be used as a DA, but has a penalty
> > of
> > > -2
> > > > per shot.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-deadlands@gamerz.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-deadlands@gamerz.net] On
> > > > Behalf Of Daniel Gwyn
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:58 PM
> > > > To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [DL] Fanning, Single and Double
> > > action
> > > > pistols.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > >             You might want to assign a penalty
> > on
> > > > accuracy to simulate the
> > > > stronger trigger pull of double action pistol.
> > > > However, I think the double
> > > > shot=automatic also works.  Remember that in
> any
> > > > case double shot=one
> > > > target.  Finally, you could try the ?cool?
> > factor:
> > > 
> > > > for some reason most of
> > > > the historical double action revolvers aren?t
> as
> > > > good looking as the single
> > > > actions (IMHO).  (While the Deadlands rulebook
> > > says
> > > > that the Peacemaker was
> > > > available in double action, apparently this
> > > doesn?t
> > > > fit the historical
> > > > reality.)
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >     Daniel Gwyn
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > "Where is the horse and the rider? Where is
> the
> > > horn
> > > > that was blowing? They
> > > > have passed like rain on the mountain, like
> wind
> > > in
> > > > the meadow. The days
> > > > have gone down in the West behind the hills
> into
> > > > shadow.  How did it come to
> > > > this?"
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Théoden from Peter Jackson's The Two Towers
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-deadlands@gamerz.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-deadlands@gamerz.net] On
> > > > Behalf Of Bobby Farris
> > > > Sent: October 19, 2004 9:21 PM
> > > > To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> > > > Subject: [DL] Fanning, Single and Double
> action
> > > > pistols.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Howdy y?all. Gotta question for ya.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > When I started playin? Deadlands there wasn?t
> > any
> > > > weapon speed. Yep, I am
> > > > that old. Anyhoo. I am now starting a new
> > campaign
> > > > and using the new weapon
> > > > speed rules. I understand them fine and like
> > that
> > > > they speed up combat, ie
> > > > by making it more deadly, but I hate what they
> > > have
> > > > done to Fannin? and
> > > > Single Action revolvers.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > My new posse won?t touch a Single action
> > revolver
> > > > because why do it? Just
> > > > use a Double action and get more shots and not
> > > have
> > > > any penalties to hit
> > > > with lower TN?s.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > So, I really don?t want to go back to weapon
> > > speeds,
> > > > but I want to change it
> > > > so that Single Action pistols have some bite
> to
> > > them
> > > > and make it more of a
> > > > question of preference on what to use.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > So, what or how would you do it? I am playing
> > > around
> > > > with the idea of making
> > > > the double shot of the Double action pistol
> work
> > > > like automatic fire where
> > > > you have to get a raise to get the second
> bullet
> > > to
> > > > hit.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =====
> > > David Sumpter
> > > 
> > > "I'm not close-minded, you're just wrong." -
> Bucky
> > > Katt
> > > 
> > > 
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"Three Rings for the Elven Kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-Lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows Lie."
                   -Gandalf quoting an ancient verse to Frodo Baggins


	
		
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