Re: [DL] DRC Article Submission Problems

[Joey Fanning <wraith530@comcast.net>]

Yeah, it looks like a conflict due to language differences.  Don't worry,
once you get your copyright stuff straightened out and give me editor
status, I'll post a lot more than just the lists...
Don't worry 'bout a thing!  I may want to ask Shane about sticking my name
on the power lists, though..
You see, when I made them, they were just up on my link at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wraith530/powers.html .  I gave this link to
shane, who copied the page up to peginc.com.  Originally, he put a note up
saying that the powers list was something i made, but he put it into
reference, and i had forgotten to stick copyright info on the page.  If you
take a look at my page, it has the pictures that are missing from the list.
In fact, clicking the pictures on the PEGINC page actually takes you to my
site..
Like you said, it was just a misunderstanding, and I wish you well with your
site.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Dury" <MarcusDury@t-online.de>
To: <deadlands@gamerz.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: AW: [DL] DRC Article Submission Problems


> Hi Joey,
>
> I'm only human. They are allready down. I did it immediately after
> sending the mail to listserv. As I said I don't wanna violate any
> copyrights, and when you read my last message you may can see how this
> misunderstanding happened.
>
> Sorry again,
>
> Marcus
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-deadlands@gamerz.net [mailto:owner-deadlands@gamerz.net] Im
> Auftrag von Joey Fanning
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Februar 2003 19:24
> An: deadlands@gamerz.net
> Betreff: Re: [DL] DRC Article Submission Problems
>
>
> please take them down, once i have editor status i may put them back up
> myself. there is nothing i hate more than people taking my work without
> giving me credit, so please heed my request.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Dury" <MarcusDury@t-online.de>
> To: <deadlands@gamerz.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:05 PM
> Subject: AW: [DL] DRC Article Submission Problems
>
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Calm down, I suppose we've got a mistake here.
> >
> > 1.Concerning the power lists:
> > ...............................
> >
> > I asked Shane in a mail from the 4'th december to use the stuff on the
>
> > peginc page.
> > ------------------------------
> > >Hi Shane,
> > >
> > >here's Marcus Dury aka Tenning the Junker, webmaster of the Deadlands
> > Resource Center (DRC).
> > >
> > >A few month ago I wrote you a mail concerning the current development
> > state of the DRC.
> > >
> > >In the meantime we had a few problems and development stopped, but
> > since 2 weeks we're
> > >programming again and the layout of the DRC is almost finished.
> > >
> > >Never the less we need still more content to launch the page. So I
> > >ask
> > you to give us the
> > >permission to use some of the official content of the www.peginc.com
> > page.
> > >
> > >Please feel free  to visit the current development state of the DRC
> > >@: http://www.e-linkz.de/hoe-deadlands/back-end/htdocs/
> > >
> > >I also invite you to register at our message board system @:
> > >http://www.e-linkz.de/cgi-bin/drc-forum/ikonboard.cgi?s=3cf7c31f34cef
> > >ff
> > f;act=Reg;CODE=00
> > >
> > >So far so good.
> > >
> > >I hope that you like our page and that we'll keep contact.
> > >
> > >Marcus
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > -
> > He answered me and told me that I could use everything puplished on
> the
> > www.peginc.com page as long as the appropriate copyright information
> is
> > attached.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > -
> > >HI Marcus,
> > >That'd be fine. Just make sure all the appropriate copyright info
> > >stays
> > attached.
> > >Best of luck!
> > >Shane
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > ---------
> > I remember that these power lists have been directly on the peginc
> page
> > and I bookmarked them:
> >
> > Here:
> > http://www.peginc.com/Downloads/Reference/powers_files/powers.htm
> >
> > As you can see the Domain starts with www.peginc.com
> >
> > And I can't see any other copyright informations on these pages.
> > Therefore I had to think that it's under the copyright of
> > www.peginc.com for which I have the permission to use everything.
> >
> > This is where the misunderstanding has occured.
> >
> > I copied and pasted all the lists in several DRC articles and put a
> > www.peginc.com link and a copyright information bellow every list (As
> > Shane told me I should do).
> >
> > Once again: The DRC could not see that these lists do belong to a
> > different copyright holder than www.peginc.com. The DRC never had bad
> > intentions. We do not want to violate any copyrights of anyone as we
> > do not want ours to be violated.
> >
> > This is how it happened. I'm sorry if the DRC violated any copyright
> > of a third party. The DRC will immediately cancel the articles till we
>
> > get the OK of the respected author to bring them back online.
> >
> > 2. The Fine Print
> > ....................................
> >
> > I read the Fine print again, and yes I've to admit that it's too
> > strict. I cpoied and pasted this text from a big roleplaying page. The
>
> > I just changed a few words. (Like the name of the page) You all may
> > know that I'm not a native speaker and therefore it's not that easy
> > for me to write a new "Fine Print" text. That's why I took the other
> > one and changed a few things.
> >
> > I do hereby state, that everyone who submits content to the DRC has
> > the full rights over his work. That the author decides when the text
> > should be taken from the page.
> >
> > [If you register as an editor you can delete your submitted articels
> > using your personal administration panel at any time!]
> >
> > It's not the intention of the DRC to steel any rights from the author,
>
> > he shall keep full controle.
> >
> > All that the DRC wants, is to avoid to be hold responsible for
> > copyright violations and we do also want to use the articles for
> > advertisement in a upcoming newsletter for all interested Deadlands
> > Gamers and Marshalls
> >
> > Not more not less.
> >
> > Once again I can only tell you that the DRC is a non-profit page build
>
> > by a few Deadlands interested students from germany, who worked for
> > quite a long time in their sparetime on building this page.
> >
> > I'm sorry.  I should have read the fine print more carefully and I
> > thought that I would have madde myself clear in the 'Fine Print': The
> > rights do fully stay at the author, he can delete his articles at any
> > time if he's an editor; he can send me an email and tell me to remove
> > the specified article, if he's not registered as an editor and used
> > the submission form.
> >
> > I'll immediately change the phrases in the 'Fine Print' that are
> > misunderstanding and make this clear.
> >
> > Cu at the DRC
> >
> > Marcus Dury aka Tenning the Junker
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-hoe@gamerz.net [mailto:owner-hoe@gamerz.net] Im Auftrag von
>
> > Stephan Elsner
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Februar 2003 16:08
> > An: hoe@gamerz.net
> > Betreff: Re: [HOE] DRC Article Submission Problems
> >
> >
> > Again, this is Stephan
> >
> > The "Fine Print-Disclaimer" seems to be a bit wrong. I think its some
> > standard text and not corrected properly to fit the intentions of the
> > DRC. Again I´ll tell Tenning this and I think it will be clarified as
> > soon as possible. Because if you post something on the DRC it WILL
> > always be YOUR property. Thats for sure. And it will be removed
> > anytime you like. Thats how it should be, as much as I know, if i said
>
> > something wrong, Tenning will correct me in a few hours. And please
> > submit your article!!
> >
> > thanks,
> > Stephan
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Horace Black" <horaceblack@yahoo.com>
> > To: "pony express" <deadlands@gamerz.net>; "HOE list" <hoe@gamerz.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:26 PM
> > Subject: [HOE] DRC Article Submission Problems
> >
> >
> > >    I like the DRC site as a whole, but I'm reluctant
> > > to submit any articles to them because of the
> > > following fine print. Because, if I'm giving them an article (which
> > > I would be) I want to have the right to ask them to remove the
> > > article in case it's to be published.  I'm not sure any publisher
> > > would buy an article that people can download for free.
> > >    Just my 2 cents.
> > >                                  Horace Black
> > >
> > >
> > > The Fine Print
> > > Any copyrightable works, products, or other
> > > information (collectively, the "Work Product")
> > > developed in whole or in part by the Author and
> > > submitted to the DRC as an Article intended for
> > > Internet publication on the Deadlands Resource Center
> > > web site shall, upon submission, become and remain the joint
> > > property of the DRC and the Reviewer. The DRC retains Limited
> > > Electronic Rights: the unrestricted current and future use of the
> > > Work Product for use on the DRC website and any DRC partner websites
> > > (including foreign translation and syndication websites) so long as
> > > the Reviewer is identified as the original author of the Work
> Product.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regardless of Rights granted to DRC, the Reviewer
> > > shall retain copyright over the Work Product and is
> > > free to resell or reuse the Work Product elsewhere in electronic,
> > > print and other media so long as such terms do not remove the rights
>
> > > granted in this submission form to DRC.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-deadlands@gamerz.net [mailto:owner-deadlands@gamerz.net] Im
>
> > Auftrag von Horace Black
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Februar 2003 15:26
> > An: pony express; HOE list
> > Betreff: [DL] DRC Article Submission Problems
> >
> >
> >    I like the DRC site as a whole, but I'm reluctant
> > to submit any articles to them because of the
> > following fine print. Because, if I'm giving them an
> > article (which I would be) I want to have the right to
> > ask them to remove the article in case it's to be
> > published.  I'm not sure any publisher would buy an
> > article that people can download for free.
> >    Just my 2 cents.
> >                                  Horace Black
> >
> >
> > The Fine Print
> > Any copyrightable works, products, or other
> > information (collectively, the "Work Product")
> > developed in whole or in part by the Author and
> > submitted to the DRC as an Article intended for
> > Internet publication on the Deadlands Resource Center
> > web site shall, upon submission, become and remain the
> > joint property of the DRC and the Reviewer.
> > The DRC retains Limited Electronic Rights: the
> > unrestricted current and future use of the Work
> > Product for use on the DRC website and any DRC partner websites
> > (including foreign translation and syndication websites) so long as
> > the Reviewer is identified as the original author of the Work Product.
> >
> >
> > Regardless of Rights granted to DRC, the Reviewer
> > shall retain copyright over the Work Product and is
> > free to resell or reuse the Work Product elsewhere in electronic,
> > print and other media so long as such terms do not remove the rights
> > granted in this submission form to DRC.
> >
> >
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