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RE: RE: [DL] DeadLands d20 ... love it? hate it?
"Clint Black" <cblack@ohtinc.com> wrote:
I agree that this works better, we are using hero system engine in a deadlands universe for our game. Body is your hit points before you are dead, which is usually less than 20, and Stun is hit points before you are unconscious, usually between 30 & 50. Weapons are classed as normal or killing and do both stun and body. Killing weapons do a lot more body than normal weapons per the amount of stun done. Normal weapons would be clubs, fists, blackjacks, chairs, etc. Killing weapons are guns, knives, swords, etc. As with the original deadlands, guns can make you real dead, real quick. No more than 3 pistol shots, and often only 2 are needed to drop folks.
Another nice thing about hero system is that it to is skill driven and a quick mod for the chips has those in it to.
Again though its finding a system a dm, and a group is happy with, and using it.
g'day
kevin jameson
>
>Since I don't have Deadlands d20, I don't know how they do it, but this is
>why I have a preference for the Wound Points/Vitality Points system from
>Star Wars d20. If it doesn't use it already, this is how I would do
>Deadlands in d20, and it's quickly becoming my preference for fantasy as
>well.
>
>For those who don't know, Vitality Points are determined almost exactly like
>Hit Points now, only they represent a character's luck, combat experience,
>etc. Wound Points represent actual damage, are equal to Constitution, and
>only increase with Con, a Feat, or Special Quality. Vitality Points are
>lost first like Hit Points except that the character is not hit, he just had
>to exert himself more to get out of the way of an attack that would have
>hit. The better the hit, the more damage, and thus the more you have to
>exert yourself. If you run out of VP's, you start taking damage to Wound
>Points and incur penalties.
>
>The big difference is that criticals don't do extra damage; the damage goes
>directly to Wound Points. I like this because it can make a fight with a
>group of much lower level opponents threatening once more. ("I'll let these
>six orcs flank me so I can use Great Cleave. I've got the Hit Points to do
>it." becomes "I'll use this wall to cover my back cause if one of these
>guys gets lucky with his great axe, I'm toast.")
>
>I really like this for Deadlands cause I'd rule that in a Showdown all
>damage goes directly to Wound Points. This would really help duplicate the
>inability to spend chips on damage during a Showdown from "Classic"
>Deadlands.
>
>Of course, since I don't have Deadlands d20, this may be how they do it. :)
>
>
>>>In the end though, its all about preference. I prefer Classic
>>>Deadlands. Others like d20 Deadlands. To each, his own. And to
>>>Pinnacle, the profits.
>
>>But there is always that. And, given that this is a hobby, that is all
>>that truly matters.
>
>
>I'm a big proponent for solidarity amongst gamers. I don't know any other
>hobby that has had to face the kind of negative publicity and opinions as
>gaming. As I often say, when O.J. Simpson went to trial, people didn't
>comment, "Well, you know he played that golf game. I hear it leads to Satan
>worship."
>
>I just think as role-players our similarities are more important than our
>differences. That whether we are Deadlanders, d20ites, GURPSians, or
>Vampirigoths, we should first and foremost stand together and say, "We are
>gamers! We are your neighbors, co-workers, and church members. Our hobby
>encourages the principles of honor, teamwork, and heroism. To claim that it
>is responsible for criminal, immoral, or antisocial behavior, is the highest
>form of ignorance and hearsay. And we will no longer stand idly by and let
>idiocy and absurdity rule the day."
>
>
>Um... <steps off soapbox> sorry. Just lost it there for a second. :)
>
>
>Clint Black
>
>"You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Ghost Rock, son. Nothing else in the
>world smells like that. I love the smell of ghost rock in the morning. You
>know, one time we had a hill bombed, for twelve hours. When it was all over
>I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' Yank body. The
>smell, you know that sulphurous smell, the whole hill. Smelled like...
>victory. Someday this war's gonna end..."
>
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