I can't believe this, people. We all know who the oldest and first harrowed is. Maybe it's just that you can't see the nose in front of your face. Here's a clue... how do we even know about the Harrowed anyway? It's Shane! Duh! Think about it. Deadlands isn't fiction. It's his memoirs!!!! ;-) Clint Black "Soylent Green is made from people!"